Finding Obscure Sailboat Items (and a sorry story to go with it).

Jan 15, 2014
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Morgan 323 Portland
Shorthanded, I back my 1984 Morgan 323 away from her slip but we get blown into the adjacent boat - our bow to his stern. The anchor gets caught in his Lifesling canvass cover and as we pull away the anchor rips his cover and then the anchor deploys. As the anchor went overboard, so does the cap to the anchor pipe. Your elaborate marina departure debacle.

Cold and murky Columbia River water is only 8' at low tide and I know about where cap lays. I couldn't get at it with a fishing net strapped to 14' boat hook. Stainless steel item so I can't pull up with the Club's magnet on a rope for such purposes. Anyway, I give up.

Question: Where would I ever find a replacement cap for something so 36 years old? Thanks for any leads.
 

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Jul 27, 2011
5,004
Bavaria 38E Alamitos Bay
Send down a diver?:huh: One of those boat-bottom scrubber guys. They’re are pretty good at finding stuff.
 
Jan 15, 2014
79
Morgan 323 Portland
Thanks, mate. I thought about it and have hired a diver before to cut loose a dock line wrapped around the prop - but that's another docking fiasco story. Anyway, seems a bit expensive for a small part like this.
 
Jul 7, 2004
8,402
Hunter 30T Cheney, KS
I dropped my prescription glasses over the side in 6' of murky water in my slip. I wasn't about to give up. I'm 5' 11" but I found them with my toes!
 
Jan 11, 2014
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Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
If the bottom is silty and soft mud, some geologist might find it in a few millennia.

You could try second hand and marine salvage yards. There are some in Florida and Maine and probably elsewhere.

It might just be easier to buy new hawse pipe. won't be an exact match, but hopefully close enough.
 
Jan 19, 2010
12,377
Hobie 16 & Rhodes 22 Skeeter Charleston
Machine shop?
Cover your pipe with a Walmart bag... smash some clay over the pipe to make a mold. Cut and smooth the above-pile clay to the approx right shape and let the clay dry. Then bring your mold to a machine shop. If it gets too pricy have a wood worker use the mold to make you a gorgeous wooden one out a small piece of some exotic hard wood.... oil it up and have the most salty pipe cover at the marina.
 
Oct 22, 2014
21,110
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
With a picture in hand and the dimensions check out one of the few left consignment chandlers. Poulsbo, WA has a great one. Longship Marine
 
Apr 8, 2010
1,954
Ericson Yachts Olson 34 28400 Portland OR
There are couple of local Portland are guys that dive for lost "stuff" around our moorage, and it's all 6 to 8 feet deep at low tide. I might be misremembering, but seems like you can expect to pay about $100.
By the time you track down a replacement part or have one made you might be out more than that. Maybe.
Curiosity -- what marina are you in? (I moor @ RCYC.)
 
May 24, 2004
7,131
CC 30 South Florida
Was working on the swim platform at the stern of the boat when I felt a "plop" in the water, thought it was a fish. A few minutes afterwards I conducted my customary routine check by passing my hand over my wallet pocket and it wasn't there. Had my "oh crap" moment and tried to figure what I could do. Tried to scrub the bottom with a pool net to no avail. Called my diver and he said he could be there the following morning. When he got here I asked him if he had a torch because it was cloudy and the water murky. No he did not, but suited up and dropped over the side of the dock. After a little while came up and said he could not see anything down there that he was feeling the bottom by touch. He went back down again but I was loosing hope thinking it may drifted overnight with the tide. Next thing I see is his hand with my wallet in it. I asked him to invoice his visit together his monthly bottom cleaning and he said no that he only charged for cleanings that favors were on him. I had to force him to accept a tip of a wet and soggy $20 bill.
 
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Jan 15, 2014
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Morgan 323 Portland
There are couple of local Portland are guys that dive for lost "stuff" around our moorage, and it's all 6 to 8 feet deep at low tide. I might be misremembering, but seems like you can expect to pay about $100.
By the time you track down a replacement part or have one made you might be out more than that. Maybe.
Curiosity -- what marina are you in? (I moor @ RCYC.)
Hello, FastOlson. Thanks for the tip on the divers. And I'm at Rose City Yacht Club as well. Nice to see you here.
 
Jul 27, 2011
5,004
Bavaria 38E Alamitos Bay
Bottom scrubbers working in my marina, i.e., already suited up, charge $20 to retrieve something from the bottom. I just wait until I see one, working, then wave him over and request the recovery dive. I remember one time not finding it in say 10 min or so; I paid anyway although he wanted to decline it.
 
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Jul 23, 2018
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hunter 31 aquia
did an ebay search for anchor pipe and saw a bunch of them. make sure to search in ebay motors
 
Jul 7, 2004
8,402
Hunter 30T Cheney, KS
Slightly off topic: I would have liked to find out how they scrub bottoms in the BVIs. When we picked up our charter cat at Conch, I peered over and saw sharks swimming amongst the boats. I hate sharks! Do they move boats to a net-protected area to scrub them?
 
Mar 26, 2011
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Corsair F-24 MK I Deale, MD
Dive. It's part of being a sailor. I can't imagine not having the required gear to go in the water to solve a problem, in any season I sail in. It seems like a basic safety matter to me. What if it was a person you need to go get, or a fouled prop or rudder, no diver available, and a storm coming? A leak that needs tended from underneath? Something you really need to inspect or you fouled some fishing gear?
 

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Jun 4, 2009
4,773
Pearson 530 Admiralty Bay, Bequia SVG
Slightly off topic: I would have liked to find out how they scrub bottoms in the BVIs. When we picked up our charter cat at Conch, I peered over and saw sharks swimming amongst the boats. I hate sharks! Do they move boats to a net-protected area to scrub them?
More than likely, those sharks weren't at all dangerous. There are only a few places you could go in the VI where you would find dangerous sharks, and they aren't where sailors often go.
 
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Jun 4, 2009
4,773
Pearson 530 Admiralty Bay, Bequia SVG
In thick gooy mud, it is almost impossible to recover items dropped. They will continue to sink deeper and deeper in the mud as time goes on, until you'd have to plow the bottom to get it back up.
The used chandleries, as mentioned above, are your best bet.
 
Jul 27, 2011
5,004
Bavaria 38E Alamitos Bay
Sharks are potentially dangerous when they are larger than you are, which seems true of most wild animals. Also, if there are many in the vicinity, and something stimulates “mass attack.” However, certain species such as nurse sharks, even if large, probably would not attack. The first dorsal fin of nurse sharks is far back over the pelvics; whereas, for reef (requiem) sharks, the potentially dangerous types, it’s mid-body. Kind of like recognizing the difference between venomous and non-venomous snakes if spending much time in wooded habitats. Still, it’s a bit unnerving to be in the water amidst sharks, no matter:yikes:.
 
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Oct 22, 2014
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CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
it’s a bit unnerving to be in the water amidst sharks
Especially if your bottom fishing with a snorkel and they are hungry...
Tried it off La Jolla Shores in my youth. Gave up my fish, and a couple of my cat lives, to the bigger predator of the sea.
 
Jan 19, 2010
12,377
Hobie 16 & Rhodes 22 Skeeter Charleston
Kind of like recognizing the difference between venomous and non-venomous snakes
One of my daughters is a biologist and she often tells people... "Venomous snakes have slit shaped pupils and non-venomous snakes have round pupils. "

My response was... so! You get up close and look in their eyes... and if you get bit in the face, they are probably poisonous :facepalm:
 
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