First time buyer

T_Cat

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Aug 8, 2014
333
Catalina 22 1987 New Design. 14133 "LadyHawke" Modesto CA
Ok, I just got the go ahead from my wife to sell our motorboat and upgrade to sail. I'm in the planning stage since I won't be putting our boat up for sale till next spring. I've been looking for a used trailer sailer in the 20-25ft range. I like the looks of the 22 but I have read reports that some of the older years had questionable construction issues.
What years should I stay away from?
What are the issues that I've heard about?

Thanks in advance

Russ (T_Cat)
 
Dec 11, 2010
486
MacGregor 26x Hayden AL
The Catalina 22 Rocks. Parts are available. If it has not been maintained, it will cost several hundred dollars in materials to get things in order. Labor is expensive whether it is yours or somebody elses. I am on my 2nd Catalina 22. Sold the first one to buy a bigger boat. Bought this one to replace the bigger boat. The current boat was in 10 times better condition than the first...but, the materials and labor to repaint the bottom, re-bed the hardware etc has been exactly the same. So, my advice is buy a project boat and make it like you like it. Buy it right so the money you spend can be recovered...I doubled my money on the first boat... Or, buy a boat that is truly ready to enjoy. It depends on your abilities and your goal for the boat. Whatever you decide, you are in good company here. I have received lots of help here and tried to offer help when I can. Good luck!
 
Dec 11, 2010
486
MacGregor 26x Hayden AL
If you can afford to buy in the winter, boats are sometimes cheaper. Buy now and sell yours in the spring when everybody wants one. You will also have a great winter project, even if it is just cleaning the inside and driveway sailing.
 
Sep 30, 2013
3,602
1988 Catalina 22 North Florida
There aren't any "bad years" to avoid. The C22 has been pretty consistent from day one.
 

T_Cat

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Aug 8, 2014
333
Catalina 22 1987 New Design. 14133 "LadyHawke" Modesto CA
Thanks for the tips. I would love to get one this fall. In fact a 72 is for sale real close to me but my agreement with the wife is to sell ours first. Oh well hopefully I'll find one next spring. Thanks for the confidence that all years are solid. I bought a couple books on sailing quite a few years ago and one of the authors commented on inconsistencies in production. I've been dreaming about sailboats for years and I've pretty much sold myself on a C22.
 
May 19, 2014
170
Catalina 22 #13555 Lake Winnebago, Oshkosh, WI
Hey T_Cat. You sound like I did last spring when I bought my first boat, an '86 C22 swing keel. Spent 10 years planning and here we are. C22's are stable, maintainable, and affordable, as much as you want to spend. I bought a project boat with intent to learn all I could about it. I detest the idea of waiting for a tow, though it will probably happen at some point. I have little experience in fixer-upper anything, so I'm learning a lot. If I can anyone can. The best thing I've heard people say here is to do what you have to and then just go sail. I could keep mine on the hard for two seasons doing everything the really needs doing, but instead I did a few necessaries and took the family sailing. It's the best thing we've every done.

I grew up with my dad's 24' Slickcraft i/o and watched half our vacation budget go into the gas tank or a tow when the tank went dry (gauge didn't work). You're going to love sailing. It takes a little longer to get there, but, then again, it's all about the ride when sailing. The Catalina 22 is a good choice. The crew on this board is a good crew. Welcome to the sailing life.
 
Dec 11, 2010
486
MacGregor 26x Hayden AL
What do you plan to do with the boat? Racing? The earlier models are supposed to be lighter...faster. The newer generation more comfortable, the mark II are the ultimate 22s. I like to camp on mine. Some (most) weekends it's tied to the dock. I just like being on board. Sleeping is awesome. I'm an up with the chickens kind of guy. The first night on my first 22 was spent at the marina on the trailer. I had a leak at the cockpit drain the night before and pulled it out to seal things up. It was in the 30's that night. No heat. I woke up at 10:00 am. I was all sleepy headed and there were people milling around all over the marina. Here I am on the trailer, just up from the launch with morning hair. I was a little embarrassed that I had slept so late. I don't remember ever sleeping that well. Never got cold. All this was on the trailer. When I got it relaunched that morning the sleep that night was almost as good in the water. Rock a bye baby. I love camping in general, on the boat is that much better. Sailing it was magic...a little puff of wind and this massive ( to me) boat would leap to speed. Pure magic. Not enough words to describe the feeling.

What ever boat you wind up with, seal up the bottom stuff first, every thing else can be done while it floats. I find the projects and planning every bit as enjoyable as the sailing...except for the windows on the new boat.... I also find the mast stepping to be a pain. If mine was not in a wet slip, I'd buy another Jeep. The ability to just drive to the boat with an overnight bag and a cooler makes all the effort worthwhile. Your experience and methods will be different, but hopefully just as enjoyable. As mentioned buy it how you want it. Projects will cost as much as finished turn key boats, but the projects will make the boat yours. Never fear, there is lots of help here, and there is almost nothing that can't be fixed. When the world ends, there will be only cockroaches and they'll be living on sailboats. My first catalina 22 was sold for enough profit to buy an oday 25 and pay for the slip,for a year. I never quite bonded with the oday like I did with the 22. If you are 6 feet tall, look for the new edition, there is room for your feet when sleeping. If you stay in a marina, make sure it is populated with your kind of folks. Mine is not the nicest, but there is always help when you need it and no blue blazer, Thuston Howell the third types. Very laid back and comfortable. Rambling, I know, but I truly think you'll find the whole experience rewarding.
 
Dec 23, 2008
771
Catalina 22 Central Penna.
You must be free

Finding a Catalina 22 is not your problem, the problem you’re going to have is selling this worthless powerboat!

Do not look at this from the stand point that this powerboat is your gateway to sailing because thinking the money from this present boat to purchase a sailboat, this gate will never open.

You must be free from this powerboat and when you’re free, your wife will be happy, then your ready to enter a new world.

In this new world the purchase price for a trailerable sailboat is an investment, repairs and operating is your only cost. This is my 23 year with this Catalina 22 and it’s worth almost what I paid for it used 23 years ago, it is a different world!
 

T_Cat

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Aug 8, 2014
333
Catalina 22 1987 New Design. 14133 "LadyHawke" Modesto CA
Lol. Well worthless it's not but yes I'm looking forward to the peace and quiet that comes with sailing. No racing for me. Just sailing and overnights with the family. My kids are 2 and 4 and already love camping so this isn't a big change in accommodations. I grew up on windsurfers, Hobie cats and the occasional sail on my buddies parents water ballast cruiser. I'm 45min to 90min from 3 lakes and the California delta so summer mooring is a possibility. I'm dreaming of a nice day of sailing, dragging a line behind for trout. Finding a nice cove for swimming and lunch and watching the sunset and tucking the family in to bed.
 
Dec 11, 2010
486
MacGregor 26x Hayden AL
Sounds like any of the models will do what you want. The only "problems" that are sort of consistent are related to the swing keel, and the cockpit drains. Both cause more worry than actual heartache. If checked/fixed before the first launch, you may never have another issue with them. Everything else is just general boat stuff which you probably already know about.
 
Aug 3, 2012
2,542
Performance Cruising Telstar 28 302 Watkins Glen
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I used these for cockpit drain screens. These are small sink strainers found at Lowes.

There is one C22 problem solved. As for the swing keel... That is both a blessing and a little less than a blessing.

Thanks,

Amdrew
 
Apr 22, 2013
51
Catalina 22 Cincinnati
The only"questionable construction issue" i can think of is there 86 models have the outboard fuel storage area open to the cabin while the models after 86 had this area sealed off. I mitigated this problem on my 1985 model by getting an o/b with an internal fuel tank. Otherwise no issues with mine.
 
Aug 11, 2011
759
catalina 22 Islamorada
Cincy question
I have an 86 myself.
The impression that I have is that the Fuel storage was moved to the cockpit so that it's vented basically outside any fumes that might accumulate in a calm area would go down (fuel vapor sinks) and go out the cockpit drains to the rear.
I have been under the impression that moving the fuel locker to where it is on the 86 was an improvement since it isolates the fuel from any bilge or cabin area.

Well if I'm under the wrong impression I'd be curious as to what your thoughts are because I'm confused as to your post.
 
Sep 30, 2013
3,602
1988 Catalina 22 North Florida
I think Cincy meant to say "pre" 1986 models.

Also - and I could be wrong about this - but I think I heard somewhere that the new design boats came out during 1986, not necessarily on January 1, meaning a few old style boats may have been produced early in that year. (Or that could all be BS, and I'm just helping to promote an internet myth. :))

It was definitely a huge improvement. My old boat often stunk of fuel, and it was hard to keep the fuel tank from sliding all over the place. Not to mention, a lazarette leading directly to the cabin like that can conceivably sink the boat, if the cover is not latched in the event of a knockdown.
 

jmczzz

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Mar 31, 2013
515
O'Day 26 CB New Orleans
My C22 is my 4th sail boat. I've enjoyed them all and can point out good points and not so good about all. I find that intended use and sailing area is the main consideration to selection. Don't worry, all sail boats will need something. Just check it out for hull leaks or weaknesses and get it in the water. That will motivate the maintenance and repairs.
Sounds like a C 22 would be a great fit for your situation.
jmc
 
Aug 3, 2012
2,542
Performance Cruising Telstar 28 302 Watkins Glen
"...upgrade to sail"...

I like that! The is good thinking... Sailing is an upgrade to motorboating! :)

Thanks,

Andrew
 
Jan 2, 2014
16
Catalina 22 Pelican Lake, MN
I have had and still have a sailboat and and more motor boats than I care to remember. It seems that a motorboat is nothing more than a tool that allows us to enjoy an activity such as fishing, tubing, or water skiing while a sailboat has a spirit and character that a person can enjoy just sitting in at the dock let alone silently sliding across the water on the breath of Mother Nature!