What do you cook with?
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I had two leak on me last season alone...so I left the canisters attached to the BBQ grill on the stern rail. Most plumbers I know use similar propane canisters for torches, and don't remove them until they're empty. My point is that they shouldn't be removed from the grill/stove when not in use, since that seems to be the problem—not that they shouldn't be used.
In my former 23 foot trailer sailor, I used the Coleman liquid fueled (white Gasoline) stove in the slip or at anchor but not underway. Spare fuel was carried in the nice Sigg spun aluminum containers that seal very well. The stove was set under the companionway so that ventilation was not a problem and it could be taken out into the cockpit and used on a cockpit table.. A pretty good setup with lots of heat.. I was comfortable with the stove because it had accompanied me on many river trips by kayak.. Today my boat has a 3 burner Propane with oven .. Lots easier to use and has safety features.
Propane gas and gasoline gas I beleive are both heavier than air and will sink (and nicely settle in the hull of a boat).
Im not positive about alchohol gas (think it might be ligher than air) but what about butane? Proabably easy to look up but someone here likely knows.
Im not positive about alchohol gas (think it might be ligher than air) but what about butane? Proabably easy to look up but someone here likely knows.
Another 'Amen' for Origio alcolhol stoves. They are really great, and safe. I've had no problem with not enough heat from them.
I had a 2-burner on my O'Day 240, and have a one-burner on my O'Day 222. I made a cool gimbal for the stove on the 240, but found it unecessary for dockside cooking. ...cooked many-a-meal on the 2-burner, and the one-burner will be getting more usage as time goes on.
I had a 2-burner on my O'Day 240, and have a one-burner on my O'Day 222. I made a cool gimbal for the stove on the 240, but found it unecessary for dockside cooking. ...cooked many-a-meal on the 2-burner, and the one-burner will be getting more usage as time goes on.
Walt,
The good thing about alcohol is that a fire can be extinguished with water. I think that this could happen with a pressurized alcohol stove, but I don't think the chances are too great of a fire occurring on a non-pressurized stove, and if it did occur, the water would put it out. Alcohol is getting expensive now, though. They want almost $30.00 a gallon for it at "Worst Marine." I can buy denatured alcohol for $5.00 a quart in Benny's Dept. Store. It's the same stuff.
Joe
I don't see a problem with the canister grills, Dog. Do you know if they still prohibit grills on boats at the Cuttyhunk Island slips in the Frog Pond? I haven't been there in years so I really don't know if they have changed their policies. I got to meet the head of the Electric Dept. His name was Bill Jenkins. That whole island was run on 6 of 8 Detroit Diesel engines with a primary voltage of 440 Volts, and everything was underground including Aerial transformers in vaults. I want to go back there some day before I croak. I just answered my own question about the grills at the dock on Cuttyhunk.
Joe
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All of the fuels, other than CNG, which is primarily methane, are heavier than air in gaseous form and can collect in the bilges or cabin of a boat, and may, in high enough a concentration, pose a fire or explosion hazard. This includes propane, butane, diesel, gasoline, alcohol, and kerosene.
The 1 lb propane canisters are quite safe. In years of RVing and boating I have not found one that leaked. I have an adapter and have been refilling the small tanks and reusing them. The only problem is that I cannot get back into the tank the same amount of liquid as the manufacturer does. The empty tank needs to be cooled and my wife does not like them in the fridge. Your nose can tell you immediately wether the valve seal is good or not.
You shouldn't be seeing any color at all with alcahol! Apparently there is something on both burners that is causing the stink and also the color. Should be ok after burning off
I'd think.
Mine has never shown any pale blue color that I can see anyway. Wish it did enough to see it burning at least. I've burned off a few hairs on my fingers because I couldn't see it.
Do you use stove fuel or denatured alcohol? I know they're the same but....
Fair winds,
Jon
Jon, I cook on a propane fueled stove on my boat. What typo?Propane stove?....
Fair winds,
Jon
Be aware that while you can use water to put out alcohol fires, you have to be very careful when doing so, since it takes a lot of water to do so properly. Water is NOT a recommended method for combating alcohol fires, unless it is in the form of HEAVY SPRAY. The reason for this is simple, alcohol is still quite a decent fuel down to about 40% by volume, as you can easily test by trying to ignite any 80 proof liquor.
What can happen, and is well documented in BoatUS's book Seaworthy, is that pouring water on an alcohol fire can move the fire instead of extinguishing as the flames "float" on the water/alcohol mixture and then move down into the bilge but continue burning—igniting the boat in the process. You're generally far better off using a fire blanket to extinguish small alcohol fires for this reason.
What can happen, and is well documented in BoatUS's book Seaworthy, is that pouring water on an alcohol fire can move the fire instead of extinguishing as the flames "float" on the water/alcohol mixture and then move down into the bilge but continue burning—igniting the boat in the process. You're generally far better off using a fire blanket to extinguish small alcohol fires for this reason.
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