Would anybody care to share their list of things for stocking up for a few days warm weather cruise in a 22 foot O'day sailboat? Such as first aid, foods, cooking ware, single burner, personel toiletries, skin care, care of the "bucket", bedding, bug repellent, battery lights, oil lamps, candles, cheap foot wear that will grip the deck, personel rain gear, gas and oil for the outboard etc...and there is probably more.:! And a couple of good humor books! Gee, don't look like theres going to be much room for 2 people. My boat has 2 bunks in the galley with storage space under, a couple of small open storage places forward in the v-berth area, and a large deep "sub terranean hard to get in cave like chasm" under the starboard cockpit seat where there is access to water tank and battery. All this is supposed to be FUN!!!! Let me hear some good stuff. David S. hdsebastianNOSPAM@bellsouth.net
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Have you read the Quick Quiz?
If you did read it, and are concerned about the environment, your comment about "care of the bucket" is in poor taste. True sailors don't carry on like that.
If you did read it, and are concerned about the environment, your comment about "care of the bucket" is in poor taste. True sailors don't carry on like that.
David, If you are real then consider this
canned food will keep without ice. T.P. is the most important item on your needs list. Toothbrush's, one for each of you is nice, snack food, aka junk food, I should think that you have a real portapot not just a bucket with a lid. Drinking water is nice to have. At least a gallon per day per person. You may want to wash so some soap and towels will be handy. Wingtip shoes aren't good on boats so some Nike's might be better. Rain gear can be improvised with plastic bags or you can get hikers rainwear. you had a bunch of other stuff on your list but I have a book I am reading so I shall let others round out the list.
canned food will keep without ice. T.P. is the most important item on your needs list. Toothbrush's, one for each of you is nice, snack food, aka junk food, I should think that you have a real portapot not just a bucket with a lid. Drinking water is nice to have. At least a gallon per day per person. You may want to wash so some soap and towels will be handy. Wingtip shoes aren't good on boats so some Nike's might be better. Rain gear can be improvised with plastic bags or you can get hikers rainwear. you had a bunch of other stuff on your list but I have a book I am reading so I shall let others round out the list.
To jimq26 cruise and the "bucket"
Hey jimq, I really apologize for the "outhouse language" being new to the cruising crowd I have a lot to learn about boat "slang" er.. I mean etiquette, (I had to look in the dictionary). I promise to become a TRUE sailor. By the way where is Bronte Harbour. I like your club flag, or is it? Do I need to learn what different flags mean and am I supposed to carry any? happy sailing (hope thats appropriate) I didn't have to look that one up. David S
Hey jimq, I really apologize for the "outhouse language" being new to the cruising crowd I have a lot to learn about boat "slang" er.. I mean etiquette, (I had to look in the dictionary). I promise to become a TRUE sailor. By the way where is Bronte Harbour. I like your club flag, or is it? Do I need to learn what different flags mean and am I supposed to carry any? happy sailing (hope thats appropriate) I didn't have to look that one up. David S
David is not so bad; we have a couple
that are very close friends of ours and every year we trailer a Starwind 223 to a different sailing venue and spend from 7 to 10 days aboard. Last year we had to postpone a trip to Lake Huron for family reasons but the point is that the 4 of us spend time aboard a 22 feet boat with no problems. Because of limited accomodations we try to schedule to spend nights at a marina where hot showers and restaurants are available. We also do the touristy thing on the towns. Every once in a while we'll spend a night on the hook and others get hotel accomodations but 90% of the time we sleep aboard. On the island of Okracoke in the Outer Banks of North Carolina we were pinned there by the weather and had to vacate our hotel rooms and were supposed to vacate our transient slip but were able to extend our stay for two additional nights sleeping aboard. The ferries were running but it was not enticing to go out on a 22 footer. The moral of the story is that you have options when planning a trip. The advantage provided by the length and draft is that you can always find a spot at a marina to tie up and sometimes they come cheap. We have spent $100 bucks for a night in Sag Harbor but have also done $18 for an excellent marina with pool in the Chesapeake. Have spent nights on the hook inside breakwaters and in quiet little coves and even 20 miles offshore in the Gulf of Mexico. We have done moorings and tied up to free city docks. We have a boat with air condition, cold and hot running water, a fridge and a full galley which we use in our local waters, down to the keys and the Bahamas but the trips on the Starwind are special.
that are very close friends of ours and every year we trailer a Starwind 223 to a different sailing venue and spend from 7 to 10 days aboard. Last year we had to postpone a trip to Lake Huron for family reasons but the point is that the 4 of us spend time aboard a 22 feet boat with no problems. Because of limited accomodations we try to schedule to spend nights at a marina where hot showers and restaurants are available. We also do the touristy thing on the towns. Every once in a while we'll spend a night on the hook and others get hotel accomodations but 90% of the time we sleep aboard. On the island of Okracoke in the Outer Banks of North Carolina we were pinned there by the weather and had to vacate our hotel rooms and were supposed to vacate our transient slip but were able to extend our stay for two additional nights sleeping aboard. The ferries were running but it was not enticing to go out on a 22 footer. The moral of the story is that you have options when planning a trip. The advantage provided by the length and draft is that you can always find a spot at a marina to tie up and sometimes they come cheap. We have spent $100 bucks for a night in Sag Harbor but have also done $18 for an excellent marina with pool in the Chesapeake. Have spent nights on the hook inside breakwaters and in quiet little coves and even 20 miles offshore in the Gulf of Mexico. We have done moorings and tied up to free city docks. We have a boat with air condition, cold and hot running water, a fridge and a full galley which we use in our local waters, down to the keys and the Bahamas but the trips on the Starwind are special.
Thanks Ross
for the cruise suggestions and I am considering getting a Porta Potty. I suppose I will need to find out where to dump it. (Hope I didn't say that wrong, jimq). I assume T.P. means tooth paste since you mention tooth brush in the next sentence,right? jimq mentioned Quick Quiz I guess thats on the home page, I'll check that out. I have enjoyed your many helpfull comments on the various forums over the past several months. enjoy your book Ross. David S
for the cruise suggestions and I am considering getting a Porta Potty. I suppose I will need to find out where to dump it. (Hope I didn't say that wrong, jimq). I assume T.P. means tooth paste since you mention tooth brush in the next sentence,right? jimq mentioned Quick Quiz I guess thats on the home page, I'll check that out. I have enjoyed your many helpfull comments on the various forums over the past several months. enjoy your book Ross. David S
Thanks Benny
I guess a cruising guide would be good for us, a night or two at a marina hotel and cafe would be appreciated by the wife. I wont mention your other boats luxorious items to my wife. I have a friend in Punta Gorda trying to sell me his Sovrel 36 for 10K, its a beautifull slender (9 ft wide) sloop, has 3.5 draft but the center board had been taken out of it. The blisters all ground out and filled and 4 coats of bottom paint by a professional and waiting for the last coat to go on before it goes in the water. Its been setting on the hard for several years, the diesel not had many hours on it but it wont turn over now and I can do my own engine work. The inside needs a good cleaning and some repair which I can do too. Since I am retired (on a budget) it does sound tempting. David S
I guess a cruising guide would be good for us, a night or two at a marina hotel and cafe would be appreciated by the wife. I wont mention your other boats luxorious items to my wife. I have a friend in Punta Gorda trying to sell me his Sovrel 36 for 10K, its a beautifull slender (9 ft wide) sloop, has 3.5 draft but the center board had been taken out of it. The blisters all ground out and filled and 4 coats of bottom paint by a professional and waiting for the last coat to go on before it goes in the water. Its been setting on the hard for several years, the diesel not had many hours on it but it wont turn over now and I can do my own engine work. The inside needs a good cleaning and some repair which I can do too. Since I am retired (on a budget) it does sound tempting. David S
David - thanks for your interest.
Yes - that is our yacht club burgee. We are located on the north west shore of Lake Ontario, in the village of Bronte (now part of Oakville). Bronte has always been a ship building village and fishing village going back to its founding in 1834. Bronte was named as a tribute to Lord Horatio Nelson, who had been granted the Duchy of Bronte in Sicily for his naval victories. Our burgee has a blue background representing the blue Lake Ontario waters. Each stripe represents one of Nelson's greatest naval victories - Battle of the Nile (1798), Battle of Copenhagen (1801) and the Battle of Trafalgar (1805). The stripes are slanted back with the thought that perhaps our club might be designated "Royal" some day, and the crown would be then inserted on the open space on the burgee. As far as flags go, you may consider a large (6'x6') red plastic sheet that can be used to show distress if the need arises. Please also check your safety list - flares, floating throwing rope, life ring / horseshoe, sound device, charts, life jackets, whistles, legal nav lights etc etc. Enjoy!
Yes - that is our yacht club burgee. We are located on the north west shore of Lake Ontario, in the village of Bronte (now part of Oakville). Bronte has always been a ship building village and fishing village going back to its founding in 1834. Bronte was named as a tribute to Lord Horatio Nelson, who had been granted the Duchy of Bronte in Sicily for his naval victories. Our burgee has a blue background representing the blue Lake Ontario waters. Each stripe represents one of Nelson's greatest naval victories - Battle of the Nile (1798), Battle of Copenhagen (1801) and the Battle of Trafalgar (1805). The stripes are slanted back with the thought that perhaps our club might be designated "Royal" some day, and the crown would be then inserted on the open space on the burgee. As far as flags go, you may consider a large (6'x6') red plastic sheet that can be used to show distress if the need arises. Please also check your safety list - flares, floating throwing rope, life ring / horseshoe, sound device, charts, life jackets, whistles, legal nav lights etc etc. Enjoy!
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1. Where does one sail in the Asheville, NC, area? 2. The only thing I would add to good suggestions already provided would be CMSR (Captain Morgan Spiced Rum). I never leave home (port) without it....
1. Where does one sail in the Asheville, NC, area? 2. The only thing I would add to good suggestions already provided would be CMSR (Captain Morgan Spiced Rum). I never leave home (port) without it....
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David, some suggestions. Prefreeze meats, let those frozen steaks and frozen chicken breast serve as ice. Speaking of ice, wash out and freeze 2Liter bottles (old softdrink bottles) with fresh water. They will serve as ice and provide drinking water as they melt. Will the water be warm during your cruise? If so, use the TP very sparingly and take a dip! A laundry basket that fits well in the boat can be handy as a drygoods tote and storage (such as chips, bread, cookies). If you find you that fits well and jams in a good place, it won't slide about as you tack. The day we leave, we cook some muffins (blueberry-yummmm), put them in Tupperware to keep them from getting crushed. Take fresh fruits like apples, oranges and slightly green bananas. No frig needed and tropical! Take plenty of sunblock and ALWAYS have a can of SPAM or Vienna Sausages for emergencies!
David, some suggestions. Prefreeze meats, let those frozen steaks and frozen chicken breast serve as ice. Speaking of ice, wash out and freeze 2Liter bottles (old softdrink bottles) with fresh water. They will serve as ice and provide drinking water as they melt. Will the water be warm during your cruise? If so, use the TP very sparingly and take a dip! A laundry basket that fits well in the boat can be handy as a drygoods tote and storage (such as chips, bread, cookies). If you find you that fits well and jams in a good place, it won't slide about as you tack. The day we leave, we cook some muffins (blueberry-yummmm), put them in Tupperware to keep them from getting crushed. Take fresh fruits like apples, oranges and slightly green bananas. No frig needed and tropical! Take plenty of sunblock and ALWAYS have a can of SPAM or Vienna Sausages for emergencies!
Good stocking up comments guys
JIMQ, in your #1 reply I was wondering if I was getting keel hauled or just some mild humour, so I just chuckled and sailed on to the next reply. I looked in my 1998 atlas at Ontario and found Oakville at the west end, looks like a good place to sail. BENNY, I have just ordered Frank Pappys Keys cruising guide as my wifes brother and sis inlaw live on Little Torch Key with an open water slip to the bay side where we can have a base camp while exploring the Keys, and they can give me some good advice about the area. She owns the little store there called "GOOD FOODS CONSPIRACY" on the main road. ROSS, we'll do our best to keep the T.P. dry! My friend sailed the Sovrel from Punta Gorda to Dry Tortuga to Key West and back to P.G. and didn't notice any excessive side slip. Having seen the Sovrel on the hard it has quite a long keel. WARREN, Is the rum to help warm you up in cold weather or to keep your spirits high all year round? In Asheville area we sail on a small power plant reservoir named Lake Julian. I designed and built a two piece nesting cat schooner that is 15 ft 9 in long when assembled with a gaff mizzen and a sprite sail for the main thats been my trailer sailer for the past 3 years. ANDY, where is BLSC? Seeing we are planning to be in the Keys in May and/or June I would think the water would be warm. I remember as a kid in Lake Worth FL swimming in the Atlantic on Christmas day. Thanks for the advice everyone. David S.
JIMQ, in your #1 reply I was wondering if I was getting keel hauled or just some mild humour, so I just chuckled and sailed on to the next reply. I looked in my 1998 atlas at Ontario and found Oakville at the west end, looks like a good place to sail. BENNY, I have just ordered Frank Pappys Keys cruising guide as my wifes brother and sis inlaw live on Little Torch Key with an open water slip to the bay side where we can have a base camp while exploring the Keys, and they can give me some good advice about the area. She owns the little store there called "GOOD FOODS CONSPIRACY" on the main road. ROSS, we'll do our best to keep the T.P. dry! My friend sailed the Sovrel from Punta Gorda to Dry Tortuga to Key West and back to P.G. and didn't notice any excessive side slip. Having seen the Sovrel on the hard it has quite a long keel. WARREN, Is the rum to help warm you up in cold weather or to keep your spirits high all year round? In Asheville area we sail on a small power plant reservoir named Lake Julian. I designed and built a two piece nesting cat schooner that is 15 ft 9 in long when assembled with a gaff mizzen and a sprite sail for the main thats been my trailer sailer for the past 3 years. ANDY, where is BLSC? Seeing we are planning to be in the Keys in May and/or June I would think the water would be warm. I remember as a kid in Lake Worth FL swimming in the Atlantic on Christmas day. Thanks for the advice everyone. David S.
Stocking up for the cruise
I can only tell you what I keep on my O’Day 222 at all times, so that you can get an idea of what I take with me when I go for an overnighter or two day cruise. Years ago I bought 6 Rubbermade rectangular containers which measure about 10” by 14” long and 4 ½” deep. I have the top cover labeled with masking tape with the contents of each container. I store these under the two settees in the main cabin. I start buying my food in March, a little at a time. One container will have soups and canned meats. Another will have canned vegetables. I keep beans and cranberry sauce in another along with other items like my favorite cans of GF Orange Cappuccino. One of the containers will have spices and condiments. Another container might have crackers and extra pan cake flour. I also have smaller tall plastic containers for regular flour, pancake flour, and dry cereal. I also have a square plastic container with no cover, which I store all my cooking utensils in. This container could double as a washing sink for dirty dishes. I have a shelf on both sides in the cabin behind the back rest, that I store my plastic marine dishes, eating utensils, dish towels, pot holders, cups, Pam spray for cooking, candles, candle containers, my scissors, fillet knife, sailor’s knife, Stainless Steel pliers, for removing fish hooks from my catch, and a small flashlight, tea, coffee, paper towel roll, foil wrap, and sandwich bags. On the sink, I keep my dish detergent, scrubby pad, and bar soap. On the other shelf, I keep my navigation equipment, various books, charts, puck type hand bearing compass, and a Garmin 12 GPS. I use a Pocket Instant Navigator for plotting courses. On this shelf, I keep my pancake syrup, cereal, an emergency stub antenna for my radio, and my winch handle that I never use. In the forward cabin under the Port V berth, I keep my Revere cookware in a large plastic container along with Aluminum foil, paper towel roll next to the box. I keep an extra 7 gal. container of drinking water. On the Starboard side under the V berth, is all the PFDs. Under the sink, I keep my flare gun w/flares in it’s container well hidden, a round flat shallow cast iron fry pan, an 8” cast iron fry pan, a stove-top grill w/dome, cooking oil, dry white wine, instant coffee, and extra dishwashing detergent. At the end of my Starboard settee under the cockpit, I keep my Stanley Ovenette circa; 1950s for baking and heating up food and my first aid kit.. Under that portion of this settee, I keep a large square plastic container with spare parts, and head chemicals etc. On the other V berth way inside I keep my Gennie in the bag. This year it will stay on my CDI Furler and I’ll gain some space in the cabin. I keep my shower bag, my personal overnight pouch with soap, shaving, 12’ telescopic boat hook, my fishing pole with lures, and etc. Under that settee, is my mast crotches, Gin Pole, pressure cooker, rain gear w/boots, and my sail repair kit. Under the cockpit near my battery, I keep my Kerosene for gimbaled lantern over the sink, Boat stove alcohol, and spray cleaner. In the Port cockpit hatch, I keep a spare Danforth anchor w/ chain and 150’ braid line, four fenders, long and short ropes and lines for docking, two large buckets, net bags, brushes, wet boat shoes, and whatever I need for the boat. I probably have some other stuff on my boat that I can’t even think of right now. I left out some of the obvious things like my Force boat anchor, which is on a bow roller at all times, and these are just the things that are always on my boat. I usually don’t keep my autopilot on board when I leave my boat on a mooring. I take that along with me when I go for an overnighter. When I go on a cruise, I bring a 50 quart cooler and an extra 25 quart cooler. I used to buy my ice, but now I plastic containers filled with water and freeze them at home. I take them out of the container and store the large ice blocks in a plastic bag and freeze them again until I get enough to take on the boat for the coolers. Large cubes will last longer for a couple of days or more. I bring my meats, milk, margarine, French fries, chicken pot pie, left-over food to heat up, and salad w/ dressing. I bring a gal. jug of ice water, my bag of clothes, and a guitar. I’ll top off my 6 gal. gas tank. I never need more than that. I bring my autopilot, my guitar, and some reading material. My radio, book light, bath towels, bathing suits, sheets, blankets and pillows are always on the boat, along with toilet paper for the head. I could probably get away without some of the items that I keep on my boat, like a pressure cooker or a rolling pin, but I never know when I may need it, and wish I had it with me. I usually bring my dog along, so I always have dog food on board anyway, along with her dishes. This is about all I can think of right now, and I know that I’m probably forgetting something, because I usually make two trips down the dock to the boat when I load her up.
I can only tell you what I keep on my O’Day 222 at all times, so that you can get an idea of what I take with me when I go for an overnighter or two day cruise. Years ago I bought 6 Rubbermade rectangular containers which measure about 10” by 14” long and 4 ½” deep. I have the top cover labeled with masking tape with the contents of each container. I store these under the two settees in the main cabin. I start buying my food in March, a little at a time. One container will have soups and canned meats. Another will have canned vegetables. I keep beans and cranberry sauce in another along with other items like my favorite cans of GF Orange Cappuccino. One of the containers will have spices and condiments. Another container might have crackers and extra pan cake flour. I also have smaller tall plastic containers for regular flour, pancake flour, and dry cereal. I also have a square plastic container with no cover, which I store all my cooking utensils in. This container could double as a washing sink for dirty dishes. I have a shelf on both sides in the cabin behind the back rest, that I store my plastic marine dishes, eating utensils, dish towels, pot holders, cups, Pam spray for cooking, candles, candle containers, my scissors, fillet knife, sailor’s knife, Stainless Steel pliers, for removing fish hooks from my catch, and a small flashlight, tea, coffee, paper towel roll, foil wrap, and sandwich bags. On the sink, I keep my dish detergent, scrubby pad, and bar soap. On the other shelf, I keep my navigation equipment, various books, charts, puck type hand bearing compass, and a Garmin 12 GPS. I use a Pocket Instant Navigator for plotting courses. On this shelf, I keep my pancake syrup, cereal, an emergency stub antenna for my radio, and my winch handle that I never use. In the forward cabin under the Port V berth, I keep my Revere cookware in a large plastic container along with Aluminum foil, paper towel roll next to the box. I keep an extra 7 gal. container of drinking water. On the Starboard side under the V berth, is all the PFDs. Under the sink, I keep my flare gun w/flares in it’s container well hidden, a round flat shallow cast iron fry pan, an 8” cast iron fry pan, a stove-top grill w/dome, cooking oil, dry white wine, instant coffee, and extra dishwashing detergent. At the end of my Starboard settee under the cockpit, I keep my Stanley Ovenette circa; 1950s for baking and heating up food and my first aid kit.. Under that portion of this settee, I keep a large square plastic container with spare parts, and head chemicals etc. On the other V berth way inside I keep my Gennie in the bag. This year it will stay on my CDI Furler and I’ll gain some space in the cabin. I keep my shower bag, my personal overnight pouch with soap, shaving, 12’ telescopic boat hook, my fishing pole with lures, and etc. Under that settee, is my mast crotches, Gin Pole, pressure cooker, rain gear w/boots, and my sail repair kit. Under the cockpit near my battery, I keep my Kerosene for gimbaled lantern over the sink, Boat stove alcohol, and spray cleaner. In the Port cockpit hatch, I keep a spare Danforth anchor w/ chain and 150’ braid line, four fenders, long and short ropes and lines for docking, two large buckets, net bags, brushes, wet boat shoes, and whatever I need for the boat. I probably have some other stuff on my boat that I can’t even think of right now. I left out some of the obvious things like my Force boat anchor, which is on a bow roller at all times, and these are just the things that are always on my boat. I usually don’t keep my autopilot on board when I leave my boat on a mooring. I take that along with me when I go for an overnighter. When I go on a cruise, I bring a 50 quart cooler and an extra 25 quart cooler. I used to buy my ice, but now I plastic containers filled with water and freeze them at home. I take them out of the container and store the large ice blocks in a plastic bag and freeze them again until I get enough to take on the boat for the coolers. Large cubes will last longer for a couple of days or more. I bring my meats, milk, margarine, French fries, chicken pot pie, left-over food to heat up, and salad w/ dressing. I bring a gal. jug of ice water, my bag of clothes, and a guitar. I’ll top off my 6 gal. gas tank. I never need more than that. I bring my autopilot, my guitar, and some reading material. My radio, book light, bath towels, bathing suits, sheets, blankets and pillows are always on the boat, along with toilet paper for the head. I could probably get away without some of the items that I keep on my boat, like a pressure cooker or a rolling pin, but I never know when I may need it, and wish I had it with me. I usually bring my dog along, so I always have dog food on board anyway, along with her dishes. This is about all I can think of right now, and I know that I’m probably forgetting something, because I usually make two trips down the dock to the boat when I load her up.
Joe, we'll need matches, cig lighter and
one of those long nose heater lighters to light up the cook stove and lantern. What kind of lantern do you have? Sounds like your boat has more storage area. Only one storage box like maybe 16 inches square and deep at the foot of the v-berth and the rest of the area under v-berths is filled with foam flotation bats. I have no shelves in the cabin above the two berths perhaps I could add a couple. No port cockpit hatch except gas tank storage and starboard cockpit hatch opens to a deep area with battery and access to water tank and I can just barely crawl in there to get to the bolts nuts to the outboard motor mount on the inside of the transom. Does your outboard (I assume it is) charge your battery or do you have to dock side charge? I guess I am getting too far away from the subject. I printed out a copy of your cruising list of supplys. Thanks Joe David S.
one of those long nose heater lighters to light up the cook stove and lantern. What kind of lantern do you have? Sounds like your boat has more storage area. Only one storage box like maybe 16 inches square and deep at the foot of the v-berth and the rest of the area under v-berths is filled with foam flotation bats. I have no shelves in the cabin above the two berths perhaps I could add a couple. No port cockpit hatch except gas tank storage and starboard cockpit hatch opens to a deep area with battery and access to water tank and I can just barely crawl in there to get to the bolts nuts to the outboard motor mount on the inside of the transom. Does your outboard (I assume it is) charge your battery or do you have to dock side charge? I guess I am getting too far away from the subject. I printed out a copy of your cruising list of supplys. Thanks Joe David S.
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