Anybody have any input as to the best speaker location on the 23? I am considering permanent (cutout) mounted 6 1/2 round units. However am open to ideas re: boxed units. Possible locations are the bulkheads on either side of the companionway, or somewhere on both sides of the cockpit vertical walls (probably not ideal stereo imaging). The lower portion below the companionway opening is out due to a compass and depth sounder unit already being there. I am afraid that any boxed units outside are just screaming to catch sheets etc., and any location inside will be difficult to hear in the cockpit. Am hoping to mount the electronics below the pullout stove/sink unit to save space. Any comments are welcome!
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Ken Shubert
Alternatives
Our H23.5 had bracket mounted speakers mounted forward on either side of the V-berth. They're the little enclosures used in pickups and RVs and I really thought I'd replace them because of lack of bass. They're still there for more reasons than just procrastination! They project sound back out the companionway into the cockpit pretty well. I can listen to reasonably loud music in the main cabin while the wife reads a book in the V-berth without being 'blasted'. I've noticed that some boats that have speakers permanently mounted in walls, project more sound outside than inside. This seems to be particularly true of power boats that crank the volume up to overcome engine noise. If you remeber the 'thread' on HOW about the use of cockpit speakers, it seems nobody appreciates someone elses music. If I really get hungry for more bass, I'll add a woofer under one of the settees and keep the 'little guys'. Ken S/V Wouff Hong
Our H23.5 had bracket mounted speakers mounted forward on either side of the V-berth. They're the little enclosures used in pickups and RVs and I really thought I'd replace them because of lack of bass. They're still there for more reasons than just procrastination! They project sound back out the companionway into the cockpit pretty well. I can listen to reasonably loud music in the main cabin while the wife reads a book in the V-berth without being 'blasted'. I've noticed that some boats that have speakers permanently mounted in walls, project more sound outside than inside. This seems to be particularly true of power boats that crank the volume up to overcome engine noise. If you remeber the 'thread' on HOW about the use of cockpit speakers, it seems nobody appreciates someone elses music. If I really get hungry for more bass, I'll add a woofer under one of the settees and keep the 'little guys'. Ken S/V Wouff Hong
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Rick Webb
Speaker Location
I have a 6" round set mounted in a board that I cut to fit the companionway. I just slide it in like a pin board and it is even reversible depending upon wether I want the sound in the cockpit or in the cabin. I have another setof 4" round ones in the foward bulkhead (check the photo forum) which most of the time make all the volume I need even in the cockpit.
I have a 6" round set mounted in a board that I cut to fit the companionway. I just slide it in like a pin board and it is even reversible depending upon wether I want the sound in the cockpit or in the cabin. I have another setof 4" round ones in the foward bulkhead (check the photo forum) which most of the time make all the volume I need even in the cockpit.
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Greg Stebbins
H23 speakers
Dan, The speakers on my 23 came mounted with the boat. They're mounted in the transom facing into the cockpit. They sound good/to great but I do wish the previous owner hadn't done that. I hate seeing perm holes in the structure. I vote for mounts the boat's not going to have to live with the rest of its life. Greg
Dan, The speakers on my 23 came mounted with the boat. They're mounted in the transom facing into the cockpit. They sound good/to great but I do wish the previous owner hadn't done that. I hate seeing perm holes in the structure. I vote for mounts the boat's not going to have to live with the rest of its life. Greg
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Bill Welsch
Speakers
Dan On our 240 I installed two outdoor speakers (the ones that install more or less flush with the cockpit back rest) and two in the cabin on either side of the V berth facing forward. Got the speakers from West MArine and a good car stereo from Best Buy. Its a great system. I especially like the fact that we can hit the fader function and put all of the music down below if my 15 year old wants to listen to Metalicca (sp?). Music and sailing just seem to go together. Of course, for me, everything goes with sailing. Good luck. Bill Welsch S/V Renewal
Dan On our 240 I installed two outdoor speakers (the ones that install more or less flush with the cockpit back rest) and two in the cabin on either side of the V berth facing forward. Got the speakers from West MArine and a good car stereo from Best Buy. Its a great system. I especially like the fact that we can hit the fader function and put all of the music down below if my 15 year old wants to listen to Metalicca (sp?). Music and sailing just seem to go together. Of course, for me, everything goes with sailing. Good luck. Bill Welsch S/V Renewal
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Jon Bastien
Main cabin mointing
I'm having the same dilemma about mounting location. Currently, I use a portable stereo with detachable speakers in the cabin, and I put one speaker on each settee facing aft. This arrangement generates plenty of sound that carries out into the cockpit, and is relatively out-of-the-way. If I ever get around to installing a permanent setup, I will probably put a set of box-mount speakers on the main cabin bulkhead, just above the gear shelf, forward of the chainplates, facing aft. I'd probably mount the radio in an enclosure just forward of the hatch (easy to reach from anywhere in the cabin, and you can use a remote from the cockpit). Let us know what you decide! --Jon Bastien H23 '2 Sheets to the Wind'
I'm having the same dilemma about mounting location. Currently, I use a portable stereo with detachable speakers in the cabin, and I put one speaker on each settee facing aft. This arrangement generates plenty of sound that carries out into the cockpit, and is relatively out-of-the-way. If I ever get around to installing a permanent setup, I will probably put a set of box-mount speakers on the main cabin bulkhead, just above the gear shelf, forward of the chainplates, facing aft. I'd probably mount the radio in an enclosure just forward of the hatch (easy to reach from anywhere in the cabin, and you can use a remote from the cockpit). Let us know what you decide! --Jon Bastien H23 '2 Sheets to the Wind'
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Joe R
stereo
I just obtained a pair of bose (box) speakers. I plan to mount them directly above the aft end of the V berth facing the rear. They can swivel and can be aimed out the compainion way to the cockpit. The stereo effect will reverse right to left and left to right as they cross each other at the companion way. I understand the entire cabin can act as a sound box and should be heard well enough from the cockpit. Will let you know how it works in a couple of weeks . Plan to launch next week. Joe R Skooky 2 (H240)
I just obtained a pair of bose (box) speakers. I plan to mount them directly above the aft end of the V berth facing the rear. They can swivel and can be aimed out the compainion way to the cockpit. The stereo effect will reverse right to left and left to right as they cross each other at the companion way. I understand the entire cabin can act as a sound box and should be heard well enough from the cockpit. Will let you know how it works in a couple of weeks . Plan to launch next week. Joe R Skooky 2 (H240)
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Gary Bridi
My solution to speaker mounting
I wrestled with the alternaties then did the following: 1. Installed a dar stereo from radio shack on my 1992 h23. It is located on the stbd bulkhead thet separates the v berth from the cabin. I mounted it in a universal mount enclosure also from radio shack. I mounted it against the bulkhead so the tuning buttons face up and since it is only 3-4 inchs deep, it is quite compact. 2. I bought bracket mounted mini sprakers also from Radio Shack. In the cabin, they fit nicely on the storage shelf. For cockpit use, I have affixed industrial strength velcro to the plexiglass companionway slider. When affixed, the speakers are at the aft end of the slider so it can be opened (slid forward) almost all the way. It works great, no holes and takes only seconds to attach or detach the speakers.
I wrestled with the alternaties then did the following: 1. Installed a dar stereo from radio shack on my 1992 h23. It is located on the stbd bulkhead thet separates the v berth from the cabin. I mounted it in a universal mount enclosure also from radio shack. I mounted it against the bulkhead so the tuning buttons face up and since it is only 3-4 inchs deep, it is quite compact. 2. I bought bracket mounted mini sprakers also from Radio Shack. In the cabin, they fit nicely on the storage shelf. For cockpit use, I have affixed industrial strength velcro to the plexiglass companionway slider. When affixed, the speakers are at the aft end of the slider so it can be opened (slid forward) almost all the way. It works great, no holes and takes only seconds to attach or detach the speakers.
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Russell
yet another idea
I mounted speakers on my 240 under the stern rail seats. I got to boxed outdoor speakers from circuit city and mounted them under the seats. I have used them for two years without fail. They are inconspicious and sound great. I also mounted a pair inside the boat about even with the bulk head. COST: $12 per pair! Russell S/V Summer Luvin'
I mounted speakers on my 240 under the stern rail seats. I got to boxed outdoor speakers from circuit city and mounted them under the seats. I have used them for two years without fail. They are inconspicious and sound great. I also mounted a pair inside the boat about even with the bulk head. COST: $12 per pair! Russell S/V Summer Luvin'
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David Phillips
Two Words
Radio Shack. I picked up 2 Optimus 2-Way Die Cast Mini speakers, (PRO-X33AV cost under $45. These 2 little boxes handle up to 30 watts. I've got them placed on both side forward, where they are well out of the way and yet when I crank 'em up, the tunes can be hear across the lake over most passing stink boats. Of course it makes it tuff on those down below when you're top side. Next option - Pick up Bose WaveBox, the $1,500 gem. Portable - no modifications required outside the hole in your wallet. That puppy has plenty of watts and can be easily stowed aft and hear over passing B-52's on final approach.
Radio Shack. I picked up 2 Optimus 2-Way Die Cast Mini speakers, (PRO-X33AV cost under $45. These 2 little boxes handle up to 30 watts. I've got them placed on both side forward, where they are well out of the way and yet when I crank 'em up, the tunes can be hear across the lake over most passing stink boats. Of course it makes it tuff on those down below when you're top side. Next option - Pick up Bose WaveBox, the $1,500 gem. Portable - no modifications required outside the hole in your wallet. That puppy has plenty of watts and can be easily stowed aft and hear over passing B-52's on final approach.
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keith smoot
Stereo and Speaker Locations on H-23
I removed the two screws on the starboard end of the traveler and used them to mount a car stereo/tapedeck,facing toward the inside on the boat. The wires ran up the starboard side of the companionway hatch, then split into left and right speakers. The speakers were mointed(placed) on the gear shelves, just aft on the chainplates. Great sound, inside and out. The stereo has front and rear speaker capability(fader) but I haven't needed two more speakers. If additional room is needed for electronics, switches,ect, try this. I made a hinged door for the hatchway. Hinged on the starboard side, the door swings inward for access to switches,radio, GPS,ect. from inside and for trailering. While sailing, swing the door in front of the hatchway and you can reach your VHS and see your GPS from the tiller. All electrical functions can be accessed at all times. A screen door lath holds the electronics consol in either position. E-mail me at snark11@aol.com for details. Keith Smoot S/V Gwaihir
I removed the two screws on the starboard end of the traveler and used them to mount a car stereo/tapedeck,facing toward the inside on the boat. The wires ran up the starboard side of the companionway hatch, then split into left and right speakers. The speakers were mointed(placed) on the gear shelves, just aft on the chainplates. Great sound, inside and out. The stereo has front and rear speaker capability(fader) but I haven't needed two more speakers. If additional room is needed for electronics, switches,ect, try this. I made a hinged door for the hatchway. Hinged on the starboard side, the door swings inward for access to switches,radio, GPS,ect. from inside and for trailering. While sailing, swing the door in front of the hatchway and you can reach your VHS and see your GPS from the tiller. All electrical functions can be accessed at all times. A screen door lath holds the electronics consol in either position. E-mail me at snark11@aol.com for details. Keith Smoot S/V Gwaihir
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