Like to hear anyone’s ideas on how you have effectively dampened the swing of your 26, 260 or 23. As we all know, these boats tend to aggressively sail at anchor or mooring due to high CG and light displacement. You tend to scare the hell out of the bigger boats in a tight anchorage, consequently they move. Have thought of small staysail, but wasn’t sure if it would work on my 26. Thanks in advance….
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MIke B
swing
I usually set anchor with bow to wind, and if I am having too much swing use addiional anchors, there are entire books on the subject, good winter project, Mike B
I usually set anchor with bow to wind, and if I am having too much swing use addiional anchors, there are entire books on the subject, good winter project, Mike B
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Pete Vente
riding sail
What you're looking for is a small riding sail that attaches to your backstay (the further aft the better - if you don't have a backstay, it won't work). It should be completely flat so it won't give any forward motion to the boat. This will act as a rudder in the wind, keeping the bow headed into it. It may actually counteract any current as well (if that's what you want). Another option is to drop an anchor straight down off the bow, between >1.0 and 1.5 times water depth, which should stop the bow from swinging first, which sets the rest of the boat in motion.
What you're looking for is a small riding sail that attaches to your backstay (the further aft the better - if you don't have a backstay, it won't work). It should be completely flat so it won't give any forward motion to the boat. This will act as a rudder in the wind, keeping the bow headed into it. It may actually counteract any current as well (if that's what you want). Another option is to drop an anchor straight down off the bow, between >1.0 and 1.5 times water depth, which should stop the bow from swinging first, which sets the rest of the boat in motion.
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Darrel Richards
Swinging at anchor
Swinging at anchor is relative to the direction of the wind. If you don't want to swing on the anchor, then put out an anchor off the bow and off the stearn. She won't swing then. I assume that you are worried most in overnight anchorages, particularly crowded ones. If someone is to close, then make friends with them and raft up off of them, then you don't have to use your anchor at all. The boats will still swing, gently relative to the wind. The last option is, find a less crowded anchorage and let the boat swing, relative to the wind, as she wishes. Besides the view also gently changes.
Swinging at anchor is relative to the direction of the wind. If you don't want to swing on the anchor, then put out an anchor off the bow and off the stearn. She won't swing then. I assume that you are worried most in overnight anchorages, particularly crowded ones. If someone is to close, then make friends with them and raft up off of them, then you don't have to use your anchor at all. The boats will still swing, gently relative to the wind. The last option is, find a less crowded anchorage and let the boat swing, relative to the wind, as she wishes. Besides the view also gently changes.
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Mike Epp
secondary mushroom
I drop another anchor (mushroom type) off the bow, down along the rode and attached to the rode with a caribiner. This keeps my keel from fouling on the primary rode and allows the boat to swing in a tight circle around the mushroom.
I drop another anchor (mushroom type) off the bow, down along the rode and attached to the rode with a caribiner. This keeps my keel from fouling on the primary rode and allows the boat to swing in a tight circle around the mushroom.
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Tom
Second anchor
Some of these responses seem to come from non H26ers. I think the high freeboard of this boat is akin to leaving up the main at anchor. It really likes to swim when there's a breeze. Not just swing to the wind, but really swim back and forth! There are probably several several multiple anchor solutions. Bow and stern doesn't seem practical to me, not being able to swing with the wind. Two anchors set off the bow at 45 degrees seems like it might help. But like you I would like to find a solution that I could rig above the waterline...on a boat without a backstay! How about a staysail rigged on a temp backstay? Will the main halyard reach aft? Tom/Ft Worth H26 Manana
Some of these responses seem to come from non H26ers. I think the high freeboard of this boat is akin to leaving up the main at anchor. It really likes to swim when there's a breeze. Not just swing to the wind, but really swim back and forth! There are probably several several multiple anchor solutions. Bow and stern doesn't seem practical to me, not being able to swing with the wind. Two anchors set off the bow at 45 degrees seems like it might help. But like you I would like to find a solution that I could rig above the waterline...on a boat without a backstay! How about a staysail rigged on a temp backstay? Will the main halyard reach aft? Tom/Ft Worth H26 Manana
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Rick Webb
Riding sail on boom
I don't anchor out much, but the couple of times that I did, I found that raising my handy-dandy 6x8 silver tarp on the end of the boom stopped the boat from sailing around the anchor. I used some light line to tie one corner of the tarp to the end of the boom and the adjacent corner to the boom. It works better if the short side of the tarp is on the boom. I then raised the third (forward) corner of the tarp using the main halyard. I then folded the fourth (aft) corner forward over the topping lift over the "leading edge" of the riding sail, and then tied it off with a line back to the end of the boom. The wrap around the leading edge keeps most of the wind out. If you don't have light line, bungie cords should work. Peter S/V Raven
I don't anchor out much, but the couple of times that I did, I found that raising my handy-dandy 6x8 silver tarp on the end of the boom stopped the boat from sailing around the anchor. I used some light line to tie one corner of the tarp to the end of the boom and the adjacent corner to the boom. It works better if the short side of the tarp is on the boom. I then raised the third (forward) corner of the tarp using the main halyard. I then folded the fourth (aft) corner forward over the topping lift over the "leading edge" of the riding sail, and then tied it off with a line back to the end of the boom. The wrap around the leading edge keeps most of the wind out. If you don't have light line, bungie cords should work. Peter S/V Raven
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Steve
Free board, windage, and no weight
Tom your right on, the high free board tends to sail these boats at anchor even in a light breeze while the heavy keel folks are dead still. I was concerned that the staysail idea on the topping lift may be to far forward. Maybe off the boom and back to the stern rail or life line then apex on to the main halyard.. I can only try, right! I tried the second anchor trick last year and found it dragging due to the short scope needed to stop the movement! Thanks to all...
Tom your right on, the high free board tends to sail these boats at anchor even in a light breeze while the heavy keel folks are dead still. I was concerned that the staysail idea on the topping lift may be to far forward. Maybe off the boom and back to the stern rail or life line then apex on to the main halyard.. I can only try, right! I tried the second anchor trick last year and found it dragging due to the short scope needed to stop the movement! Thanks to all...
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Stephen Dawes
Swinging...
We found out the hard way that you do not wan't to let your boat swing and leave in the dinghy!! While anchored in Garrison Bight (behind Key West) over new years, we discovered that our boat (H260) was dragging. Sometimes as much as 150 yds. The anchorage very sparcely populated with boats so it was hard to tell at first. Our ground tackle is way oversized for the boat. 22# Delta on roller, 50' chain and 150' rode. The bottom at Key West is very poor. Mud and grass for the most part. After checking the set of the anchor (10' of clear water) we determined that the swinging of the boat was sort of providing a shock load the anchor and un-setting it. We set a 10# Danforth at 45deg ("bahamian style") and no more swing.. The lesson is SET TWO ANCHORS TO BE SURE.. Stephen Dawes H260 Tender Morsel
We found out the hard way that you do not wan't to let your boat swing and leave in the dinghy!! While anchored in Garrison Bight (behind Key West) over new years, we discovered that our boat (H260) was dragging. Sometimes as much as 150 yds. The anchorage very sparcely populated with boats so it was hard to tell at first. Our ground tackle is way oversized for the boat. 22# Delta on roller, 50' chain and 150' rode. The bottom at Key West is very poor. Mud and grass for the most part. After checking the set of the anchor (10' of clear water) we determined that the swinging of the boat was sort of providing a shock load the anchor and un-setting it. We set a 10# Danforth at 45deg ("bahamian style") and no more swing.. The lesson is SET TWO ANCHORS TO BE SURE.. Stephen Dawes H260 Tender Morsel
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William Davis
Anchor Swing
I lived onboard an Allied 46 for a year and we use to tie an bucket or sea anchor off the stern to produce drag and slow or stop the boat from sailing around the anchor line. This works very will in a mild current. Havn't tried yet with my H23, but its cheep and easy. I must say that if you plan to anchor over night, its best to put out two at 45 deg. The other option is to Med-Moor or drop one anchor off the stern as you approach your anchor spot, pay out line until you reach your desired spot, then drop your forward anchor and fall back taking in line from the stern. You will end up anchored forward and aft (Med-Moored!) 6&1/2 dozzen???
I lived onboard an Allied 46 for a year and we use to tie an bucket or sea anchor off the stern to produce drag and slow or stop the boat from sailing around the anchor line. This works very will in a mild current. Havn't tried yet with my H23, but its cheep and easy. I must say that if you plan to anchor over night, its best to put out two at 45 deg. The other option is to Med-Moor or drop one anchor off the stern as you approach your anchor spot, pay out line until you reach your desired spot, then drop your forward anchor and fall back taking in line from the stern. You will end up anchored forward and aft (Med-Moored!) 6&1/2 dozzen???
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