Lake Superior Experience

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May 17, 2004
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Other Catalina 30 Tucson, AZ
Not sure how many WI sailors there on this list so unless your familiar with the Lake Superior area (Duluth/Superior) the first part of this message won’t make much sense but the second part might. I was in the Superior area last week and friends of mine invited me out for a sail. It was a beautiful day on a beautiful boat (Hunter). At the end of the day we stopped at Grandma’s for onion rings (best I’ve ever tasted) and a few Leinenkugel’s (great local beer).

During lunch the topic turned to sail trim and the couple asked me what I thought of their sail trim. I told them it was fine but they kept pressing me for more detail. About that time the biggest ore carrier I have ever seen was exiting the Duluth ship canal so I excused myself to watch it go out. I was hoping the subject of sail trim would be forgotten by the time I got back to the table but no such luck. They started up again.

I told them I didn’t want to hurt their feelings but they kept pressing so I finally told them they had no idea of the function of each sail trim controls for the main and jib but that they are not alone – probably 50% of the sailors worldwide don’t know either. The husband asked for an example so I gave him some. During the sail he told me he was using the outhaul to adjust twist and later told me the boom vang adjusts draft depth (belly). Also, the fairleads look like they had never been moved. Both of them then admitted they had no idea of the function of the sail trim controls. The wife asked me if I could help them and how long would it take – I told them way less than 2 hours. Using a napkin as a sail I explained draft depth, draft position, twist and angle of attack and wrote down the sail trim controls for the main and jib that are used to adjust those elements. By far that is the hardest part to learn.

Next day was another nice sailing day, which I understand might be few and far between in Duluth, and out we went. Since they knew what each mainsail and jib sail trim control adjusted the rest was easy. First we worked on twist. They saw how the top of the sail opened and closed. Next we worked on angle of attack and how the boat was powered up and down. Next was draft depth and last was draft position. Draft position is hard to see for the first time but after you see it once you don’t forget it.

Dennis Conner is not calling these folks for advise but these guys have a good basis to build on as they master the settings for various wind conditions and points of sail. They now had the confidence to handle their boat and we ended the day at Grandma’s for Linnie’s and onion rings – on them!! I felt pretty good myself because it is a great feeling when you can share knowledge and give something back to the sport that has given me a lot of enjoyment.
 

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Apr 11, 2004
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Don, if you get a chance to sail out of the Bayfield WI area, Jump on it! You are only a couple of hours from it in Superior. The Apostle Island area is some of the best sailing I've ever done. It is gorgeous. Many great anchorages off pristine islands (I think there are 22 of them).
 
Nov 9, 2008
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Pearson 323 Bayfield
Don, I find your note interesting as I was at Grandma's for my first time last week also. I'm a lifelong Wisconsinite, now at retirement age, but have discovered Superior only in the past 2 years since we brought our Pearson 323 to Barker's Island Marina. (However, I discovered Liennie's 45 years ago.) Superior is the friendliest city my wife and I have ever encountered. Duluth, across the river where Grandma's is, is much larger but seems to be equally friendly.

I did my first "big boat" experience at Sailboat Inc.'s course in Bayfield/Apostle Islands and I agree strongly with the Merry Prankster about the islands. There are enough Islands that there is always a protected bay to seek,no matter the wind direction.

Should you be fortunate enough to return to the West end of Lake Superior (Anyone coming to Wisconsin is fortunate.) and notice the S.V AnaMeg with poorly trimmed sails you will not hurt feelings if you hail us and tell us how to get our (sailing) act together.

We are relatively new at sailing. I recently read your book and it is very helpful and makes sail trim understandable. However, when I get in the boat it seems like there are enough strings to pull that I need an attorney to help. I expect that to change quickly with the help of your charts.

Geoff
 
Jul 24, 2005
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MacGregor Mac26D Richardson, TX; Dana Point, CA
Thanks...

I too have your book and I refer to carefully...... Thanks for taking the time and thought to put this out.

--jerry
 
May 17, 2004
2,110
Other Catalina 30 Tucson, AZ
Geoffk: This message is a bit long but hopefully you and other beginner to intermediate sailors will get something out of it.

I’ve never been to your neck of the woods before. It reminded me of New England where I grew up.

I know all the sail trim controls for the main and jib are overwhelming but it is no different than sitting in the cockpit of a Piper Cub for the first time. Fortunately, sail trim is easy to learn but I’ll admit I didn’t think so when I got back into sailing a number of years ago. I really thought I was the only sailor on the face of the earth that didn’t get it. After developing my SAIL TRIM CHART I realized I wasn’t alone.

As with the PIPER CUB you can’t get into the cockpit, start it up, take off and land all at once. You have to go to ground school. The first mistake beginners make is not going to ground school. The SAIL TRIM USERS GUIDE is ground school. The first chapter that covers DRAFT DEPTH, DRAFT POSITION, TWIST and ANGLE OF ATTACK is everything. Sail trim and all the controls for the main and jib will never make any sense without a complete understanding of the “4 element of sail trim”. Sail trim is hard to learn from a book but as I mentioned in the previous post I could and did explain it in about 10 minutes at Grandma’s using a paper napkin shaped like a sail!!

Once you understand the “4 element of sail trim” the next thing you need is the QUICK REFERENCE” I provided FREE with your SAIL TRIM CHART.

At this point we are ready to go on the boat and out for a sail. Here’s the second mistake sailors make. Instead of dealing with 4 trees (the 4 elements of sail trim) in the forest they start dealing with the whole forest!!

The first thing you want to deal with is the easiest – ANGLE OF ATTACK. Move the traveler back and forth and see what happens to your speed. Next is TWIST. Crank and ease your boom vang and watch the top of the mainsail open and close. Next is DRAFT DEPTH. Crank and ease the outhaul and watch the belly appear and disappear. Some of this stuff you can do at the dock.

We are almost home. DRAFT POSITION is hard to see for the first time. Read the section on draft position about 4 times before attempting. Once you see it happen it will be easy to recognize.

Sounded like a lot of work but you could do it in less than 30 minutes and that is enough for one day. Next sail work on the jib. Get the mainsail driving and don’t mess with the mainsail controls. Your fairleads control ALL 4 ELEMENTS of sail trim. The jib sheet works with the fairleads to control draft depth. Work you fairleads back and forth and watch what happens to your sail shape and speed.
See how easy all that was!! You now know more about sail trim than 60% of the sailors worldwide.

Since you know how all the controls work your ready for the SAIL TRIM CHARTand all I have to do now is look for the best looking set of sails in Superior, WI and I’ll know it is you!!
 
Nov 9, 2008
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Pearson 323 Bayfield
Thanks Much! I will put it all into action next time up, I think in 2 weeks.

Geoff
 
May 17, 2004
2,110
Other Catalina 30 Tucson, AZ
Re: Thanks...

Jerry: Thank you for the kind words.

Dana point is a beautiful location. I sailed there many times both from Dana Point itself and in the Long Beach to Dana point race, which I'm not sure if they even have now a days.

Do you have any problems sailing in the light winds there?
 
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