On my 1986 HUNTER31 I have an Origo 2 burner stove top w/ oven below. The previous owner never used it and in the 2 years that we have had it; we've never used it as well. My wife is not comfortable with the alcohol setup. I'm thinking of removing it and replacing it with a KENYON express butane single burner and a 800watt .7 cu.ft microwave below(to be used at shore). I'd like to get some feedback as to my idea before I commit to it.
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make an anchor out of it
We had an alcohol stove on our H33 and had so many problems with flare ups, fuel leaks and general fear that we just ripped it out and are in the slow process of replacing it with something else. Until than we are using a small camping stove with those small disposable propane bottles. This Century unit works great, it heats much quicker and gets hotter than alcohol and is, in my opinion, much safer. Since we do not make more than a two day passage offshore we just live with leftover type foods until we are safetly anchored again.
We had an alcohol stove on our H33 and had so many problems with flare ups, fuel leaks and general fear that we just ripped it out and are in the slow process of replacing it with something else. Until than we are using a small camping stove with those small disposable propane bottles. This Century unit works great, it heats much quicker and gets hotter than alcohol and is, in my opinion, much safer. Since we do not make more than a two day passage offshore we just live with leftover type foods until we are safetly anchored again.
Keep it
We just spent 2 weeks using our origo stove on our 31 it works great and is much safer then using propane. Propane settles in the lowest part of the bilge and will not dissapate. Remember to fill the tanks out side and wipe up any spills. This stove is much safer then the pressurized alcohol one I used as a kid.
We just spent 2 weeks using our origo stove on our 31 it works great and is much safer then using propane. Propane settles in the lowest part of the bilge and will not dissapate. Remember to fill the tanks out side and wipe up any spills. This stove is much safer then the pressurized alcohol one I used as a kid.
Keep it!!!
Steven F is thinking of the old pressurized stoves which DO have flare ups and are hard to get a handle on. Origos are a whole different beast. I have that exact unit and LOVE it! I've only heard one bad comment about Origo and that appears to be because the operator spilled some alcohol on the stove which caused a fire. Alcohol burns clear so you can't see the flame if it spills on the stove. Solve this by filling the wicks outside, away from any potential flame. Buy the little round neoprene covers for the wicks to keep the alcohol from evaporating. Honestly, I know for a fact my Origo heats water much faster than my old pressurized stove and almost as fast as propane. The fuel is slightly more expensive but if you're not using it very often, it makes little difference. PLUS alcohol can be extinguished with water...propane explodes. Your wife's fears are unfounded in this case. Go buy some high quality stove alcohol and enjoy! LaDonna
Steven F is thinking of the old pressurized stoves which DO have flare ups and are hard to get a handle on. Origos are a whole different beast. I have that exact unit and LOVE it! I've only heard one bad comment about Origo and that appears to be because the operator spilled some alcohol on the stove which caused a fire. Alcohol burns clear so you can't see the flame if it spills on the stove. Solve this by filling the wicks outside, away from any potential flame. Buy the little round neoprene covers for the wicks to keep the alcohol from evaporating. Honestly, I know for a fact my Origo heats water much faster than my old pressurized stove and almost as fast as propane. The fuel is slightly more expensive but if you're not using it very often, it makes little difference. PLUS alcohol can be extinguished with water...propane explodes. Your wife's fears are unfounded in this case. Go buy some high quality stove alcohol and enjoy! LaDonna
The alcohol is a good thing
Alan, The alcohol is what the others say it is. If you decide to sell it I'll start the bidding a $125. r.w.landau
Alan, The alcohol is what the others say it is. If you decide to sell it I'll start the bidding a $125. r.w.landau
NOT a boat anchor!
Funny how people write opionions about somehting they know noting about? The stove you have is great! The following is a post from me earlier on (by the way, the archives are great, too. Everyone should check them first before posting because the answer to a "new" question will probably already be posted) I recently "installed" an Origo 3000 two burner stove in my Catalina 30. The original setup was just the two burner pressurized stove with the two drawers below. I was doutbful about this little stove cooking well without pressure but read some great comments from owners and reviewers on the internet. Besides, $250 is a LOT less money than the full ovens cost. Anyway, that little stove works great. Boils water fine. The best test so far has been pan frying steaks. You need some serious heat to sear them properly and still have a juicy center. I really doubted that little funky flame would accomplish this, since I am quite picky about how my steaks are cooked, but the 3000 did very well. Propane on a boat, for me, was out of the question. CNG was a consideration but I really didn't care to spend the money and time to install it all. The Origo 3000 just sits right in the original space without any installation besides an L-bracket and screw to hold it there. Don't count it out! Chris
Funny how people write opionions about somehting they know noting about? The stove you have is great! The following is a post from me earlier on (by the way, the archives are great, too. Everyone should check them first before posting because the answer to a "new" question will probably already be posted) I recently "installed" an Origo 3000 two burner stove in my Catalina 30. The original setup was just the two burner pressurized stove with the two drawers below. I was doutbful about this little stove cooking well without pressure but read some great comments from owners and reviewers on the internet. Besides, $250 is a LOT less money than the full ovens cost. Anyway, that little stove works great. Boils water fine. The best test so far has been pan frying steaks. You need some serious heat to sear them properly and still have a juicy center. I really doubted that little funky flame would accomplish this, since I am quite picky about how my steaks are cooked, but the 3000 did very well. Propane on a boat, for me, was out of the question. CNG was a consideration but I really didn't care to spend the money and time to install it all. The Origo 3000 just sits right in the original space without any installation besides an L-bracket and screw to hold it there. Don't count it out! Chris
actually have problem#2
I'm keeping the alcohol setup What location/storage suggestions for a small microwave on a HUNTER31 1986?
I'm keeping the alcohol setup What location/storage suggestions for a small microwave on a HUNTER31 1986?
Suggestion only.
Alan: The locker aft of the chart table is actually a good place for the microwave. The trick here is to find one that is small enough to fit on top of the locker and clears the deck liner. If you can find one that will fit in there snuggly without being tight (don't want too much heat against the fiberglass) you don't need much to hold it down when you sail. The door acutally swings in the right direction too. PS: Is you wife a changed woman too?
Alan: The locker aft of the chart table is actually a good place for the microwave. The trick here is to find one that is small enough to fit on top of the locker and clears the deck liner. If you can find one that will fit in there snuggly without being tight (don't want too much heat against the fiberglass) you don't need much to hold it down when you sail. The door acutally swings in the right direction too. PS: Is you wife a changed woman too?
If Alcohol
If Alcohol is so great why is gas used in houses and not alcohol?? You think maybe the home builders just haven't caught on yet?? While you alcoholers are priming and heating or whatever you do to get a flame going I'm cooking with gas! As for propane being unsafe; a lot more people drown every year than die of propane explosions... Just ask Hank Hill.... Ron/KA5HZV
If Alcohol is so great why is gas used in houses and not alcohol?? You think maybe the home builders just haven't caught on yet?? While you alcoholers are priming and heating or whatever you do to get a flame going I'm cooking with gas! As for propane being unsafe; a lot more people drown every year than die of propane explosions... Just ask Hank Hill.... Ron/KA5HZV
Easy, Ron.....!
We are talking non-pressurized alcohol, not the old pressurized types that you had to "heat or prime". And, while you are turning on your solenoid (you DO have a solenoid....) the Origo is already at work. It will cook anything a propane stove will. By the way, the Origo burner is rated at 7,000 BTU, while most of the propane burners are rated at 5,500...if alcohol stoves had always been this easy, we might not have ever played with gas! But, bottom line, both types work pretty well. Propane is a much more complicated installation, Origo is much less maintenance, but a tiny bit slower, SOMETIMES! And the steaks and bread taste preeeetty good, either way. Enjoy.
We are talking non-pressurized alcohol, not the old pressurized types that you had to "heat or prime". And, while you are turning on your solenoid (you DO have a solenoid....) the Origo is already at work. It will cook anything a propane stove will. By the way, the Origo burner is rated at 7,000 BTU, while most of the propane burners are rated at 5,500...if alcohol stoves had always been this easy, we might not have ever played with gas! But, bottom line, both types work pretty well. Propane is a much more complicated installation, Origo is much less maintenance, but a tiny bit slower, SOMETIMES! And the steaks and bread taste preeeetty good, either way. Enjoy.
RON.. we talking oven or stove?
The original post has to do with a TWO BURNER ORIGO STOVE not an OVEN! Why is it people don't READ what is posted and questioned before diving in with a blatantly ignorant opinion? As mentioned before, the Origo is cooking in the time it takes to lite the burner. Aparently, same as an earlier poster, you have NO experience with this type of stove. It works great for what it is, a 2 burner STOVE.
The original post has to do with a TWO BURNER ORIGO STOVE not an OVEN! Why is it people don't READ what is posted and questioned before diving in with a blatantly ignorant opinion? As mentioned before, the Origo is cooking in the time it takes to lite the burner. Aparently, same as an earlier poster, you have NO experience with this type of stove. It works great for what it is, a 2 burner STOVE.
Help!!!!
Okay... I didn't know that. I still prefer propane, but that's what makes the world, etc... Speaking of the world, I do know that propane is much more available in out of the way parts of the world than is alcohol. Yes, I do have a soleniod. One more question! Why do all of the great yachts of the world have gas instead of alcohol?? There has to be something to it! Ron/KA5HZV P.S. Don't spill that alcohol on the counter tops now! Take it outside if you're going to make a mess! I just cleaned in here...
Okay... I didn't know that. I still prefer propane, but that's what makes the world, etc... Speaking of the world, I do know that propane is much more available in out of the way parts of the world than is alcohol. Yes, I do have a soleniod. One more question! Why do all of the great yachts of the world have gas instead of alcohol?? There has to be something to it! Ron/KA5HZV P.S. Don't spill that alcohol on the counter tops now! Take it outside if you're going to make a mess! I just cleaned in here...
Bread?
I'm intrested in that bread comment. We enjoy cooking on our origo, we mostly use a cast iron frypan (to keep the heat even) but I would like to hear how you bake bread? Thanks, Chris
I'm intrested in that bread comment. We enjoy cooking on our origo, we mostly use a cast iron frypan (to keep the heat even) but I would like to hear how you bake bread? Thanks, Chris
Boat Bread
1 5/16 cups of water 1 teaspoon salt 2 table spoons sugar 3 cups of flower 2 teaspoons of rapid rise yeast Mix in the same order as listed. Kneed for about 4 or 5 min, then let rise until mixture doubles in size. Kneed again, separate into two loaves and let rise again until double its size. Bake in the oven at 350 to 375 degsF for about 45 minutes. That's boat bread and it sure is good... Ron/KA5HZV
1 5/16 cups of water 1 teaspoon salt 2 table spoons sugar 3 cups of flower 2 teaspoons of rapid rise yeast Mix in the same order as listed. Kneed for about 4 or 5 min, then let rise until mixture doubles in size. Kneed again, separate into two loaves and let rise again until double its size. Bake in the oven at 350 to 375 degsF for about 45 minutes. That's boat bread and it sure is good... Ron/KA5HZV
Bread II
You can bake the bread in a cast iron fry pan on the stove top if you have a heavy cast iron lid and you keep the flame way down low. A pressure cooker will also work, just keep the gasket, valve and weight off so the steam can escape. Dee-licious, and the smell is great! Peter H23 "Raven"
You can bake the bread in a cast iron fry pan on the stove top if you have a heavy cast iron lid and you keep the flame way down low. A pressure cooker will also work, just keep the gasket, valve and weight off so the steam can escape. Dee-licious, and the smell is great! Peter H23 "Raven"
Another advantage
Alan, If the worst happens and you have an alcohol fire, you can douse it with water. r.w.landau
Alan, If the worst happens and you have an alcohol fire, you can douse it with water. r.w.landau
Simmer down, Ron
I don't think anyone was saying alcohol is "better" than propane or vice versa. We were simply letting Alan know that alcohol is not a bad choice. It's more expensive than propane BUT has it's advantages. And it his Origo is certainly better than going to the hassle
I don't think anyone was saying alcohol is "better" than propane or vice versa. We were simply letting Alan know that alcohol is not a bad choice. It's more expensive than propane BUT has it's advantages. And it his Origo is certainly better than going to the hassle
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