Halyard wrap with Furlex

kbgunn

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Sep 19, 2017
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2006 Hunter 38 4410 Lake Lewisville, TX
New-to-me 2006 Hunter 38 with a Furlex 200s. If there is any tension on the jib halyard, I get halyard wrap while furling up the jib and cannot furl the jib up completely. See photos below. When all tension on the halyard is released, the wrap resolves and I can completely furl up the jib. I figured this out through trial and error in some dicey conditions with the jib and sheets flailing around. Is this normal behavior? I have a Selden fractional rig and the halyard exits a sheave box which is the recommended configuration in the 200s manual. I have cleaned and lubed the upper swivel so that it spins smooth and freely. I had a Catalina 30 with CDI furling gear and this didn't happen. Any suggestions for troubleshooting appreciated.

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Mar 6, 2008
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Catalina 1999 C36 MKII #1787 Coyote Point Marina, CA.
The wrap is due to the head of the jib too far away from the top of the furler. The jib needs to be raised about 10". This can be done by placing a pendant at the tack of the jib to raise it. You can make a temporary one using a loop of line.
Haro.
 
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Ted

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Jan 26, 2005
1,215
C&C 110 Bay Shore, Long Island, NY
Dave is correct. Another type of halyard deflector is the one made by Harken it's very easy to install.
 

Dave Groshong

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Jan 25, 2007
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Catalina 22 Seattle
There's likely a furlex version as well, I will check with Selden
 
Mar 23, 2020
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Hunter 30G Nanaimo
If you have a back stay tensioner, adding some tension before furling also helps.
 

JRacer

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Aug 9, 2011
1,239
Beneteau 310 Cheney KS (Wichita)
Yep. Wrong angle for the halyard. Not the furlers fault.
 
Jul 7, 2004
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Hunter 30T Cheney, KS
The wrap is due to the head of the jib too far away from the top of the furler. The jib needs to be raised about 10". This can be done by placing a pendant at the tack of the jib to raise it. You can make a temporary one using a loop of line.
Haro.
That's exactly what I had to do. In fact, the manual says a pendent longer than 6" should be wire
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Jul 7, 2004
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Hunter 30T Cheney, KS
Notice in that figure how short the exposed halyard is. No chance for a wrap. Install a pendent at the drum and lessen your exposed line
 
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kbgunn

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Sep 19, 2017
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2006 Hunter 38 4410 Lake Lewisville, TX
The wrap is due to the head of the jib too far away from the top of the furler. The jib needs to be raised about 10". This can be done by placing a pendant at the tack of the jib to raise it. You can make a temporary one using a loop of line.
Haro.
I think this is a good observation and will be easy to confirm. It also agrees with the drawing in the manual I just posted above. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll work up a pendant today. :thumbup:
 

kbgunn

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Sep 19, 2017
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2006 Hunter 38 4410 Lake Lewisville, TX
Notice in that figure how short the exposed halyard is. No chance for a wrap. Install a pendent at the drum and lessen your exposed line
Thanks Justin. Did you swage your own wire pendant or is there a ready-made source online?
 
Jul 7, 2004
8,004
Hunter 30T Cheney, KS
Thanks Justin. Did you swage your own wire pendant or is there a ready-made source online?
Funny you ask. The PO used a piece of line and referenced a piece of tape on the furler when he tied it. I just happened to find this ready made pendent in all of the stuff he gave me. It fit perfectly with a couple shackles I had around.
 

Dave Groshong

SBO Staff
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Jan 25, 2007
1,792
Catalina 22 Seattle
Here are the Selden numbers for their halyard restrainers:

For 100 or 200: 508-159-01
For 300 or 400: 508-128-01

Give me a call if you'd like to order
877-932-7245 x116
Mon-Fri, 9-3:30 Pacific
 

kbgunn

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Sep 19, 2017
147
2006 Hunter 38 4410 Lake Lewisville, TX
Raising the head of the sail further up the extrusion reducing the halyard angle and leaving less exposed worked. No more wrap issues.

Thanks all.
 
Jun 25, 2004
1,108
Corsair F24 Mk1 003 San Francisco Bay, CA
The wrap is due to the head of the jib too far away from the top of the furler. The jib needs to be raised about 10". This can be done by placing a pendant at the tack of the jib to raise it. You can make a temporary one using a loop of line.
Haro.
Or add a pendant to the head, instead of the tack. Your choice.
 
Mar 6, 2008
690
Catalina 1999 C36 MKII #1787 Coyote Point Marina, CA.
The jib must be raised reducing the length of the halyard at the top that causes the wrap. Adding a pendant at the top will not help.
 
Jun 25, 2004
1,108
Corsair F24 Mk1 003 San Francisco Bay, CA
The jib must be raised reducing the length of the halyard at the top that causes the wrap. Adding a pendant at the top will not help.
Respectfully, that’s incorrect.
Adding a pendant to the head usually is usually preferred, because that maintains the height of the clew and the vertical sheet angle, which in turn controls leech twist.
adding a pendant at the tack raises the clew and the whole sail, which isn’t generally desirable, unless it’s a really short pendant being added to correct a clew that’s too low for the position of the sheet block.

Judy B
Sailmaker
Authorized Selden and Harken Dealer

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