Getting my 222 ready for the summer

[48dodge]

Well, my 222 is finally up on stands about 2 feet above the trailer. I'm not sure how many but I have definitely removed some years from my life. I finished up in the dark last night so it was too late for pictures, I'll try to get some soon. Anyway, what I did was jack up the boat and trailer together, first the rear/stern, built a simple stand, then lowered the boat onto the stand, then lowered the trailer back down. That was definitely the worst part because the trailer is partly on the grass so there wasn't a really good place for a jack (used several sheets of plywood to level the ground) and the jack I had was a total piece of crap. Bought it from harbor freight several years ago and this experience made me go out and get a new one. It jacked stuff up fine, but when it came to lowering stuff, it was all or nothing. So whatever you had jacked up was going to come crashing down when the jack was released. Not real bad when working on a car and it's jacked up 6 inches and when released, the car will land on rubber tires. A bit different when jacking a fiberglass boat up 2 feet in the air and if it crashes down, there isn't much cushion. Anyway, the front went much better. I used the tongue jack to raise the trailer by jacking the tongue up, supporting the trailer with stands, raising the jack all the way up, building up a support for the tongue jack, then raising it again until the trailer was up where I needed it. The stand for the front is basically just a glorified 12' long sawhorse with a cradle that matches (mostly) the shape of the bow. I built it that wide so I can hopefully completely remove the trailer.Got to get to work removing the rest of the bottom paint removal, repairing the trailer, repaint the bottom, do a little fiberglass repair on the keel, and work on the centerboard. Then I can work on the topsides!

 

[Joe11688]

That's quite an undertaking!

I'd like to see pictures of that. My friend Norman Hooben in Alabama told me that he raised his MacGregor the very same way, years ago. Now.--Do you have a flat bunk trailer, or a roller trailer? Do you have any boat stands? Some guys would prefer to use some kind of gallows to support the bow section of the boat, and jack up the main hull from the ground with a hydraulic jack. This would probably be a good way to get the trailer out provided the gallows was wide enough to get the trailer by it, but the bow would have to be lifted straight up so that the rest of the hull wouldn't twist and possibly fall off the blocks. I prefer to jack the whole thing up from the ground, myself. Will you be able to let your centerboard down to paint inside of the slot as well as do the board too? I had to dig a hole under my keel a couple of years ago, to let my centerboard down. I supported the hull with 6X6s just in front of the keel and in back of the keel. I used my boat stands to keep the boat nice and straight. I know that I mentioned this before but, my sailboat stands will actually lift my boat. I wouldn't try doing it to a larger boat than a 222 though. You don't want to let the boat come down hard when you put it back on the trailer. I don't know if I could ever take my boat off the trailer without boat stands. I've never tried it. I've done it with powerboats, but I never had to worry about a keel before. Hey, as long as you take your time and think it through, anything is possible. Good luck!Joe

 

[48dodge]

Pics coming soon

Supposed to be a bunk trailer with 2 bunks, but one bunk decided to give up the ghost on the long ride home from where I bought the boat (actually only about 3 blocks away from my house). Looks like the hull wasn't damaged from basically resting directly on the bunk support post. Once I get everything ready for cleaning and the trailer out of the way, I'll be able to inspect that spot a little better to make sure there isn't any delamination. I do have a repair to make on the topsides where there's some slight delamination, but nothing too serious. Oh yeah, the boat was actually only sitting on the bunks and bow roller. There's a keel roller, but it's sitting about 2 inches too low, so I've got to modify that a bit to fit the boat a little better. I'll try to take some pictures tonight

 

[48dodge]

Here they are

Here's the rear stand. If I were to do it over again, I'd build a smaller version of the support I built for the front. Much easier, lighter, and sturdier. Not that this is going anywhere, but I definitely like the front one better. But, I got to use up most of the scrap wood I've been saving for the past year building this one.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v96/blustig/Sailboat/100_0979.jpgAnother viewhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v96/blustig/Sailboat/100_0980.jpgAnd anotherhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v96/blustig/Sailboat/100_0981.jpgHere's the front supporthttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v96/blustig/Sailboat/100_0983.jpgFront onhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v96/blustig/Sailboat/100_0985.jpgThe side of the supporthttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v96/blustig/Sailboat/100_0986.jpgThink I needed to replace the bunk?http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v96/blustig/Sailboat/100_0982.jpgI think that's it!

 

[48dodge]

2x8s

Those are actually 2x8s doubled up. I'd worry a little about 2x6s especially if one had a knot. I have no doubt the 2x8s are enough. That's another thing about the the rear stand. I would have moved it in a tad closer to the keel, but the way I built the stand it was too wide to fit between the bunks. Had I built it more like the front, I could've gotten away with a narrower stand and placed it closer to the keel. It's supported pretty evenly and I don't see any issues with how I've built it, but you know what they say about hindsight

 

[48dodge]

Oh yeah

Don't have my hull number with me right now, but I'll get it when I get home. I've had the boat for over a year and family stuff got in the way, but the goal is to have it in the water for July 4th. The hull looks so dingy because it was painted black when I got it. Most of it was flaking off so I went ahead and scraped it.

 

[Joe11688]

Great pic, Dodge!

Thank you for sharing them with us. You're right about that front stand. I like it, and it looks like a great design to me. I was thinking of making something similar to it, and I may still do it. I'm kind of worried about that rear stand tipping forward or backward on you, Dodge. Maybe you can add something to it on both sides to make a wider base, just in case. I don't know which area of the boat that you plan to start, but if you're not going to start on the keel right away, you may be better off getting some blocks under the keel after removing the trailer. Getting most of the weight of the boat on the keel blocks will make that boat real stable. Do you know anyone who has a couple of sailboat stands that you could borrow? I'm using the angled SB-3 sailboat stands from Brownell. Here's their link. They really make a job like this a lot easier. I picked up a used powerboat stand a few years ago in a yard sale for about $15, and I use it under my bow for support. Also, I took some old 3' lengths of power company cross arms and 4X4s,and cut them diagonally to make wedges out of them. You can take two of them and slide them together under an object to take up a small gap. They can also be pounded with a hammer for a tight fit under any object. Dodge; If you send me an email I'll be happy to send any pictures that I have on this. SailTrinkka1986@verizon.net

 

[48dodge]

Rear stand

It doesn't look like it, but the rear stand is vertical and has feet on either side to keep it from tipping. I will beef it up a little before I actually crawl underneath it, though! I don't trust it THAT much right now. Hehe. Really, I just want to get the hull wet by July 4th. The interior isn't really on my list of things to do right now. I may do some odds and ends inside while I'm waiting for paint to dry. I'm planning on trying to remove the board from the keel to clean it up and probably go ahead and replace the line there, maybe the pivot, too. I'll try to get it supported by the keel right after that, though. Thanks for the advice. The planned paint scheme as of now was picked out by my wife. Flag blue topsides, red bottom paint and white accent stripes. Other than cleaning and painting (and a few small fiberglass repairs) the exterior is in pretty good shape. I have to replace the aluminum rubrail (one small damaged piece). I have the existing rubrail in my garage, but I may try to go with all new. Some of the exterior teak could stand to be replaced, but there's nothing to prevent me from sailing there. Deck hardware needs to be reset, I'm sure. Probably some core repair around the hardware holes, but nothing obscene. The deck is actually really solid and no soft spots.

 

[48dodge]

Hull ID #

XDYJ0237D484 I thinkAnd I checked, I actually got lucky and the rear stand is directly under that rear bulkhead so that is probably a pretty solid place to be.

 

[48dodge]

Thanks for the info

I've been wanting to figure out the history of the boat.Went to pull the centerboard out last night. Got the trailer most of the way out, but I've got to get a buddy to help me lift the tongue up so I can get the tail-end of the bunks under the front stand. Anyway, went to unscrew the screws holding the centerboard plates. 3 came out fairly easy, 1 almost didn't come out, it was actually decomposing. The weird part was one of the screws that came out easily there was about 3 tablespoons of water that came out of the hole. It was somewhat clear/milky and smelled almost like detergent (sweet). I'm wondering if this was because it had lead in it... Anyway, I couldn't figure out why the plates didn't drop down and then I noticed the two smaller phillips head screws. I didn't have time to clean them up enough to be able to remove them.

 

[Joe11688]

Thanks for posting this Rob!

I've never had my centerboard out since I've owned my boat and I'm kind or leery about removing it, but taking my board out would save me from having to dig a hole in the ground under my keel and it would allow me to do a better job of getting bottom paint into the keel slot as well as doing the whole board and checking the pivot pin at the same time. This is something that I'm going to seriously consider doing. What the heck, I'm going to tackle my outboard engine water pump and thermostat, I may as well tackle this too. Thanks again for the info and picture.Joe

 

[48dodge]

Pin now removed

I was able to remove the centerboard last night. I thought everything was toast in the pivot point since there was so much slop, but now that it's out, I see that's probably pretty standard. I've got a lot of cleaning and painting to do before resetting the centerboard. All of the parts I pulled out actually look to be in good shape, very similar shape to your picture, Rob. The pin actually looks nearly new. I almost ordered all new parts from Rudy, but I think I can reuse everything except the 6 screws and pendant line.

 

[48dodge]

Looks good, Chuck

Planning on trailer sailing my boat, may keep it in the water for a week or 2 at a time, so I was planning on some sort of barrier coat plus several coats of ablative. I'm new to the bottom paint thing so someone let me know what my best course of action would be.

 

[48dodge]

No plans to race as of now

I was part of the racing club here for a couple years. Enjoyed it while I did it, but I enjoy sailing more to relax. Racing was too stressful for me. But that was on a very large Beneteau. Plans do change so I haven't ruled it out. Just let me get the boat in the water first, then we'll see.

 

[48dodge]

Pics

I'd love to give the Oday side of this site a little kick in the pants, too. Seems to have slowed down a little bit recently. Glad to see everyone is still out there, probably just busy with their own winter projects.And I do have a spinnaker that came with the boat so it almost begs to be raced...

 

[Sunbird22358]

J = 22 or 222

XDYJ0237D484XDY = O'Day BoatsJ = 222 model0237 = Class# ie, this was the 237th 222 builtD = April4 = 1984, year of construction84 = 1984 Model Year.For that "West Coast Boat"SURK0536K586SUR = Starcraft Sailboats (at the time, the division of Lear Siegler Marine that built the O'DAYs, CALs, Ranger FUN, and Prindle Catamarans on the East Coat, and I guess at a West Coast plant as well?)K = 222? my data has no listing of a "K" model of O'DAY so maybe this designates a 222 built at the West Coast plant?0536 = Class# (536th 222 built)K = November5 = 1985, year of construction86 = 1986 Model YearI've included a link to the website where I got the info on the codes, not sure if it still exists since I recall someone else scanned the printout recently to post on this forum.

 

[Chuck R]

Sunbird, Seems you are right.----

The Hin # on my 1977 Penn Yan starts out PYBAM..PYB = Penn Yan Boat Co of Penn Yan NYAM = 23 Avenger model,The link is the US Coast Guard site http://boatsafe.com/links/index.htmThis is where I first got my info. However also showed O'Day's built I believe in KY or TN too but don't see that now.I rebuilt the Tieman Trailer also and found they are still in business in CA. I had E'd them and they kindly sent me new decals with their logo to decorate my trailer.

 

[mike C16582]

Cape Dory Typhoon??

a Typhoon, right?? The blurriness isn't from the Typhoon's speed.......

 

[48dodge]

I love the Cape Dory

The lines are very similar to the boat I want to build in the future, the Stevenson Weekender.

 

[Joe11688]

Did you know---

that the Cape Dory sailboats were built in my city, Taunton Ma.? They were built in East Taunton where the old Ansonia Mills were located. Then they moved to the State of Maine. Just a little trivia.48 Dodge, I love the Stevenson Weekender! I'd love to build one. Two guys in my city have built them, and one of these guys has a web site with some fascinating pictures of the construction in progress. They are a cute little boat, but they can capsize very easy. I'd love to build one, but I don't have the room to do it. Here's Ron Young's Weekender site. Enjoy! Oh by the way, I finally removed my centerboard from my 222 today.Joe