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  1. Jackdaw


    Joined Nov 8, 2010
    8,974 posts, 2,263 likes
    Beneteau First 36.7 & 260
    US Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
    A friend of my is repairing a large section of wet core today on his Schock 35. They found a low spot but were out of balsa. So a trip to the Ace Hardware store around the corner, and they came up with a novel solution.

    See it?

  2. pateco


    Joined Aug 12, 2014
    2,098 posts, 549 likes
    Hunter 31 (1983)
    US Pompano Beach FL
    Pine paint stir sticks??? o_O

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  3. justsomeguy


    Joined Feb 20, 2011
    6,341 posts, 828 likes
    Island Packet 35
    US Tucson, AZ/San Carlos, MX
    Yep. Free with purchase of a gallon.

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  4. Will Gilmore

    Will Gilmore

    Joined Oct 19, 2017
    2,735 posts, 1,167 likes
    O'Day 19
    US Littleton, NH
    Nice! :clap:
    But, won't it make her a little off balanced? I mean, paint stick pine isn't as light balsa.;)

    Seriously, nice work.

    - Will (Dragonfly)

  5. JRacer


    Joined Aug 9, 2011
    728 posts, 176 likes
    Beneteau 310
    US Cheney KS (Wichita)
    I would have been more inclined to head for the hobby shop (think model aircraft) and see what kind of balsa stock they had on hand and built some end grain balsa pieces out of it.

  6. Ben4195


    Joined Jul 5, 2005
    51 posts, 1 likes
    Beneteau 361
    US Sandusky Harbor Marina
    Necessity is the mother of invention for sure. Thanks for sharing!

  7. 31seahorse


    Joined Aug 2, 2005
    821 posts, 105 likes
    Celebrity Class 19
    US Penn Yan, NY (Seneca Lake SP)
    day one: stop worrying we have plenty of material. day two: no problem it's going along very nicely. day three: it's gonna be close! day four: oh, fiddlesticks! I should have bought that piece I put back on the shelf.

    I think we have all done that. Inventive solution.

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  8. Kermit


    Joined Jul 31, 2010
    4,619 posts, 1,802 likes
    Hunter 260
    US Lake Murray Sailing Club, SC
    It could be he forgot to stir the paint. Better late than never.

  9. AlastairLC


    Joined Jan 2, 2017
    285 posts, 74 likes
    O'Day 322
    US Lake Pleasant
    Ace Hardware sells sheets of balsa. Why go with a different wood?

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  10. Will Gilmore

    Will Gilmore

    Joined Oct 19, 2017
    2,735 posts, 1,167 likes
    O'Day 19
    US Littleton, NH
    It works and they had them on hand. Why not? I mean, other than the slight list to that side;).

    - Will (Dragonfly)

  11. Dave Groshong

    Dave Groshong SBO Staff Staff Member

    Joined Jan 25, 2007
    1,268 posts, 75 likes
    Catalina 22
    US Seattle
    Epoxy can cover a multitude of sin.

  12. agprice22


    Joined Aug 3, 2012
    2,067 posts, 385 likes
    Performance Cruising Telstar 28
    US Watkins Glen
    Yeah, that will buff out.

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  13. Daveinet


    Joined Sep 20, 2014
    857 posts, 140 likes
    Rob Legg RL24
    US Chain O'Lakes
    Something else they could have used is door jam shims. They are tapered, so they would feather in well with minimal sanding.

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  14. vizwhiz


    Joined Aug 7, 2011
    496 posts, 18 likes
    MacGregor 26S
    US Lakeland, FL
    This is great...nice one!

  15. Apex


    Joined Jun 19, 2013
    752 posts, 87 likes
    Oday 28
    US Traverse City
    That makes me twitch.........Will it work, sure. Would I do something like this, I suspect JD wouldn't aboard BlueJ....amIright?

  16. Jackdaw


    Joined Nov 8, 2010
    8,974 posts, 2,263 likes
    Beneteau First 36.7 & 260
    US Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
    It’s probably just fine, but it does jangle my sensibilities.. a few years ago my carpenter brother came to town to help with an addition I was finishing on my old house. He watched me try and make a behind the scene bit of wood perfect and he said, “we’re building a HOUSE, Clay, not a Swiss watch!”

    Point taken.

    But I am happy Beni uses solid hulls. Modern vacuum injected resin systems pull resin into core kerns and prevent such wide spread disasters, but that picture gives me the chills.

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  17. BigEasy


    Joined Jun 21, 2004
    921 posts, 187 likes
    Beneteau 343
    US Slidell, LA
    Couldn’t agree more! Think that I would have repaired with layers of matt & epoxy.

  18. Will Gilmore

    Will Gilmore

    Joined Oct 19, 2017
    2,735 posts, 1,167 likes
    O'Day 19
    US Littleton, NH
    Counterpoint. I used to work as a carpenter and I always hated it when someone invariably said, "it's just a closet." or "it's just a garage."
    Jackdaw, your brother is right, but there is a line that goes the other way.

    I hired a couple of carpenters to help me rebuild my own bathroom. I designed and built the case pieces with the intention of installing them a certain way. When the carpenter helped me fit one piece in just to see if it would fit, it was perfect and it leveled precisely so he wanted to just screw it in and be done. The only problem was, I designed it to sit on a seperate kick plate and frame, which we hadn't put in first. So I said no. He wanted to put the plate in later because it still needed the tile face applied. The cabinet face hung over the box so the kick base was too big to fit under the front edge after the install. His answer was to cut the kick base down so it would just slide under. I said no. He thought it would be more work to take the box back out just to get the base in. I felt cutting the base down was more work. I also didn't want the gap between box and base. I purposely designed it to avoid that gap. I also hasn't meant for it to be a wall mounted box. It was plenty strong enough, but I would have added supporting back rails.
    He got really ticked-off when I refused.
    He declared sarcastically, "It's not like I know how to install a cabinet."

    We never got along after that.

    - Will (Dragonfly)

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  19. Jackdaw


    Joined Nov 8, 2010
    8,974 posts, 2,263 likes
    Beneteau First 36.7 & 260
    US Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
    yea I hear you.... but that's the difference between someone tinkering with their own house, and someone who gets paid to do it. Like most tradesmen, they have come up with best practices to allow for efficient building. Different from how you or I would do it.

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  20. rgranger


    Joined Jan 19, 2010
    4,957 posts, 897 likes
    Hunter 26
    US Smith Mountain Lake
    I love to tell people that the H26 I am currently sailing only cost me $1,100. But the truth is, that is how much I paid for my very first MacGregor V21. I restored and flipped that boat and seven flipped boats later, I now have an H26 that only cost me (OUT OF POCKET) $1,100. However, if I counted the hours I put into restoring those old boats (AND DOING IT RIGHT) I am sailing one of the most expensive H26 sailboats on the water.

    Lets be honest... some of us like tinkering with our boats almost as much as we like sailing them.

    Last edited: May 16, 2018

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