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Update on Five Month Voyage

Discussion in 'Ask All Sailors' started by Rick D, Feb 14, 2018. Add this thread to a FAQ

  1. Rick D

    Rick D

    Joined Jun 14, 2008
    6,429 posts, 136 likes
    Hunter Legend 40.5
    US Long Beach, Shoreline Marina, CA


  2. capta

    capta

    Joined Jun 4, 2009
    2,180 posts, 447 likes
    Pearson 530
    XX Sailing in the Windward or Leeward Islands where ever we are anchored
    I can't load the video, so I'm assuming this is a deep sea salvage? The cost of any deep sea salvage is often prohibitive. Remember the nearly new million dollar Gunboat abandoned several years back? To the best of my knowledge, no one ever even attempted to recover her.
    First you've actually got to find it, not quite as easy as it sounds, even with an approximate position. Then you must find it in weather that is conducive to attaching a tow line (if the boat even has a point that strong; if not you'll have to build one), or standby until the weather moderates.
    Next, always the fun part, you begin to tow a vessel that has her own mind on what direction she wants to go, and often it isn't the same one as the tow. If possible, you can put someone on the wheel of the towed vessel, but that's pretty risky if the weather goes to sh*t and you can't recover those crew members.
    A lot of times the tow line will break or the strong point you've attached to isn't as strong as you had hoped. As this often happens in bad weather, you'll once again have to stand by until the weather moderates to hook up again. On a long tow, this can happen over and over again.
    Quite often, even with big ships, the cost of salvage can easily far exceed the value of the vessel and even her cargo. Then there are the legal hassles of being in possession of a vessel you don't own. Almost as much fun as a broken tow line....
     


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  3. shemandr

    shemandr

    Joined Jan 1, 2006
    3,092 posts, 330 likes
    Marblehead Skiff 14'
    US Greenport, NY Greenport, NY
    Ironic.
     


  4. Roland5048

    Roland5048

    Joined May 12, 2004
    882 posts, 208 likes
    Hunter Cherubini 30
    US New Port Richey


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  5. rgranger

    rgranger

    Joined Jan 19, 2010
    4,334 posts, 515 likes
    Hunter 26
    US Smith Mountain Lake
    She is riding low on her lines. I'm guessing the bilge pump is NOT working.
     


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  6. JamesG161

    JamesG161

    Joined Feb 14, 2014
    2,136 posts, 419 likes
    Hunter 430
    US Waveland, MS
    But we all know there is plenty of dry foods aboard for even dogs to eat.:laugh:
    Jim...
     


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  7. Rick D

    Rick D

    Joined Jun 14, 2008
    6,429 posts, 136 likes
    Hunter Legend 40.5
    US Long Beach, Shoreline Marina, CA
    Excellent perspective. Yea, I didn't think it was likely; just tongue-in-cheek. But you bring out points I hadn't considered. In fact, today I saw an attempt to tow a Cal 30 (I believe) in some big seas along the coast in the area of Santa Barbara in big seas. There was a note saying the attempt was abandoned.
     


  8. Rick486

    Rick486

    Joined Oct 1, 2007
    849 posts, 114 likes
    Hunter 44DS
    US Pt. Judith
    Sad. After all, it is not the fault of the yacht. Boats will take care of us if we take care of them.
     


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  9. Head Sail

    Head Sail

    Joined Nov 13, 2013
    322 posts, 72 likes
    Catalina 34
    US Tacoma
    All alone like a jilted third wheel. Soon to find comfort with her new lover, Davy Jones.
     


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  10. Benny17441

    Benny17441

    Joined May 24, 2004
    5,270 posts, 270 likes
    CC 30
    US South Florida
    "Asking not to litter the Oceans with plastic....." Go complain to the US Navy who left her adrift. The race crew could have scuttled her but wait, the race committee will not redress them for time lost. Easy to preach about cleaning the Oceans but passing the buck to the Authorities not so cool. Welcome to the real world; two persons and a dog were rescued and that boat is but a speck of sand in the garbage floating out there.
     


  11. Will Gilmore

    Will Gilmore

    Joined Oct 19, 2017
    1,346 posts, 439 likes
    O'Day 19
    US Littleton, NH Littleton, NH
    Nice looking solar panels and surf board, though.

    - Will (Dragonfly)
     


  12. Brian D

    Brian D Moderator

    Joined Feb 17, 2006
    3,660 posts, 444 likes
    Lancer 27PS
    US Oceanside, Ca MCB Camp Pendleton, Ca KF6BL
    Too bad they do not have beacon balls. Little balls with solar panels (like garden lights) and a low power transmitter (.5 watts) that sends out an AIS signal. These little beacon balls can be thrown on board an abandoned vessel for tracking. At least the vessel would show up on someone's AIS receiver.
     


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  13. jssailem

    jssailem

    Joined Oct 22, 2014
    4,125 posts, 1,064 likes
    CAL 35 Cruiser
    US Salem, Moored Port Everett WA
    Brian. Interesting idea.
     


  14. Will Gilmore

    Will Gilmore

    Joined Oct 19, 2017
    1,346 posts, 439 likes
    O'Day 19
    US Littleton, NH Littleton, NH
    I'll bet that boat has seen far bigger seas since losing her crew than she ever saw with two people and a dog on board. What brand of boat is she?

    - Will (Dragonfly)
     


  15. jssailem

    jssailem

    Joined Oct 22, 2014
    4,125 posts, 1,064 likes
    CAL 35 Cruiser
    US Salem, Moored Port Everett WA
    I guess the question is... why not just scuttle her when the owner abandoned the boat?
     


  16. Gunni

    Gunni

    Joined Mar 16, 2010
    4,633 posts, 722 likes
    Beneteau 411 Oceanis
    US Annapolis
    That derelict needs to be put down, she’s done. 5 rounds, 50 Cal should do the job.
     


  17. Will Gilmore

    Will Gilmore

    Joined Oct 19, 2017
    1,346 posts, 439 likes
    O'Day 19
    US Littleton, NH Littleton, NH
    So, that's where the name 'Gunni' comes from.

    - Will (Dragonfly)
     


  18. jssailem

    jssailem

    Joined Oct 22, 2014
    4,125 posts, 1,064 likes
    CAL 35 Cruiser
    US Salem, Moored Port Everett WA
    Efficient, economical ($3.19 per round) and a training moment.
     


  19. justsomeguy

    justsomeguy

    Joined Feb 20, 2011
    5,894 posts, 633 likes
    MacGregor, Island Packet 35
    US Tucson, AZ/San Carlos, MX
    Must be a gov't buying mass quantities? Usually about $10.00/round for us individuals.
     


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  20. jssailem

    jssailem

    Joined Oct 22, 2014
    4,125 posts, 1,064 likes
    CAL 35 Cruiser
    US Salem, Moored Port Everett WA
    Maybe the local control in San Carlos (cartels) add a tax. Would think any Big Box store in AZ could support your need.
    Last time I was visiting a small AZ town I met a local cowboy with his 6 shooter on his belt. Told me it was not one of those toys shooting blanks.. Chocked it up to an AZ thing.
     


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