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Trailerable Sailboats Under 5,000lbs

Discussion in 'Trailer Sailors' started by rustyw007, Apr 24, 2017. Add this thread to a FAQ

  1. rgranger

    rgranger

    Joined Jan 19, 2010
    4,228 posts, 427 likes
    Hunter 26
    US Smith Mountain Lake
    I would consider 4' a shallow draft.... If I can step out and dig the keel out of the sand and/or push off the sand bar... it is shallow draft (been there... done that).... just pointing out what the O.P. requested.
     


  2. Jackdaw

    Jackdaw

    Joined Nov 8, 2010
    7,348 posts, 1,213 likes
    Beneteau First 36.7 & 260
    US Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
    I agree with you. Fundamentally for me, if it's trailerable it's a skinny water boat. My question about draft was really addressed to the OP!!
     


  3. Meriachee

    Meriachee

    Joined Aug 1, 2011
    1,936 posts, 350 likes
    Catalina 270
    CA Edmonton, Ab Wabamun - on the orange ball
    Depends on your definition of "trailer launch" and what lengths you would go to for that to happen.
    (and with that, I'll go back to watching the conversation....)
     


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  4. rustyw007

    rustyw007

    Joined Oct 18, 2015
    35 posts, 4 likes
    Catalina 22
    US Stevensville, MD Kent Narrows, MD
    Happy to clarify - my sailing is in the Chesapeake and there are couple reasons for the "requirement" (my own only of course) for the 24" of less draft.
    1. One of the places I'll frequent quite a bit while generally deep has a couple sand bars and some shoaling that makes the water only about 28" deep.
    2. Most of the ramps close to my house (where I will do the majority of my sailing), are not long enough, or steep enough, or both (even with a tongue extension) to launch a keel based boat.
    3. With all the rivers and estuaries around the Chesapeake, one of our favorite things to do is "beach the boat" and camp on shore - its just a matter of convenience for me in being able to get closer without a fixed keel.
    To be clear - if I were looking at Keel boats - my list would be VERY different - but at the end of the day - after discussing as a family what our intended use of the boat would be - this list of "requirements" seems to provide the guard-rails in making our decision.

    And yes, the "enclosed head" was the non-negotiable requirement of my better half. :)
     


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  5. Calif. Ted

    Calif. Ted

    Joined Jun 8, 2004
    1,964 posts, 60 likes
    Catalina 320
    US Dana Point


  6. rustyw007

    rustyw007

    Joined Oct 18, 2015
    35 posts, 4 likes
    Catalina 22
    US Stevensville, MD Kent Narrows, MD
    Ted,

    Thanks for the input! Both great boats - I like them a lot - neither meets the requirement of enclosed head. I don't expect a lot of boats to meet all the requirements I've stated - but then again if I stick to them, at least I won't have to choose for a large selection! :)
    • less than 5,000lbs with engine and basic gear (not all the stuff we tend to accumulate)
    • enclosed head (porta-pottie OK but must be enclosed)
    • min draft of 24" (must be able to get to skinny water and be easy to launch via standard boat ramp)
    • less than $15,000
     


  7. rgranger

    rgranger

    Joined Jan 19, 2010
    4,228 posts, 427 likes
    Hunter 26
    US Smith Mountain Lake


  8. Brian S

    Brian S

    Joined Nov 9, 2012
    2,281 posts, 131 likes
    Oday 192
    US Lake Nockamixon
    Know that there are 2 different versions of the First 235 - fin keel, and wing keel. You'd want the wing for draft.

    But don't forget the the O'day 240! It's a winger with enclosed head, 2.67' draft, and the interior layout looks stolen from the First 235. Or vice versa. And not as fast as the Bene. http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=418

    If anyone wants to give me either a 235 or a 240, I will make a very comprehensive testing program and report back to ya! :D
     


  9. cb32863

    cb32863

    Joined Jun 29, 2010
    764 posts, 61 likes
    Beneteau First 235
    US Lake Minnetonka, MN
    Well there is a fin 235 that just came on the market in the DFW area for $9K.... http://sailingtexas.com/201701/sbeneteau235134.html

    ;)
     


  10. Brian S

    Brian S

    Joined Nov 9, 2012
    2,281 posts, 131 likes
    Oday 192
    US Lake Nockamixon
    I wish I wish! But the little O'day serves me fine for now...
     


  11. Crazy Dave Condon

    Crazy Dave Condon

    Joined Jun 8, 2004
    5,743 posts, 332 likes
    -na -NA
    US Anywhere USA
    As a former dealer now retired who sold all the boats mentioned by the OP except for the Rhodes 22 built by friends of mine whose boats I worked on to include a wheel on one boat for Laura Dent, I sent a private message stating I would be glad to talk with him about the pros and cons of each boat as related to his issues on launching, amenites and so. My approach with my customers was to ask questions in a manner that they would answer their own questions based on information provided and what looked pleasing to them. That was the best approach. The fellow explained well what is an issue of shallow water and launching on shallow ramps in his area which I am familiar with too having delivered boats in that area and showing all the boats in Annapolis at the show except for the Rhodes 22. He can private email me if he desires with a number or I can provide that to him if he is interested in talking on the phone with the understanding that all contact information is kept private and I discard that info. once I am done.
     


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  12. Skipperdan

    Skipperdan

    Joined Jan 24, 2017
    150 posts, 28 likes
    Chrysler C26
    US Dickinson ND Lake Sakakaweea
    Chrysler C26 draft would be close though.
     


  13. Doug4bass

    Doug4bass

    Joined Jun 9, 2004
    478 posts, 30 likes
    Catalina 385
    US Marquette. Mi
    ODay 26?
     


  14. rustyw007

    rustyw007

    Joined Oct 18, 2015
    35 posts, 4 likes
    Catalina 22
    US Stevensville, MD Kent Narrows, MD
    Thanks for reaching out! I do have the private message and appreciate your willingness to share you knowledge. I've got enough info for now to digest, but I'll certainly be in contact when I get closer to a decision.
     


  15. Crazy Dave Condon

    Crazy Dave Condon

    Joined Jun 8, 2004
    5,743 posts, 332 likes
    -na -NA
    US Anywhere USA
    Thank you for advising. There are things I know that most do not know along with tricks to solve issues. I was very much involved with the Hunter water ballast and the 260 and 26 were ones Hunter came to me on advice to fix and others. I was also involved with the Catalina trailerables and a good example is the Sport 22 trailer designed by Ron and I which you could launch from a shallow ramp that will also fit any 22 Catalina hull with swing keel only of any year. You have my contact information. The Rhodes 22 is an excellent boat along with the Beneteau 235 but the keel configuration for shallow ramp launch may be difficult. I will ask Dennis Kitchen to speak up as I think he has suggestions for shallow ramp launching that works for him. Dennis can you speak up and help us here or advise the other thread on that issue. Thanks Dennis.
     


  16. Gunni

    Gunni

    Joined Mar 16, 2010
    4,359 posts, 569 likes
    Beneteau 411 Oceanis
    US Annapolis
    I'm surprised that you aren't looking at multi-hull boats like the Corsair, Farrier, L7, Telstar, TomCat 6.2. There are some compelling reasons to choose a multihull when looking at shoal water sailing and then need for maximum boat in the lightest package. You will struggle to meet your stated budget but you will get a lot of performance and room.
     


  17. Daveinet

    Daveinet

    Joined Sep 20, 2014
    709 posts, 67 likes
    Rob Legg RL24
    US Chain O'Lakes
    You could try a Mega 30. I've seen a few for sale where the head was enclosed. On a 30 foot boat, its pretty easy to find space to enclose the head. The boat only weighs 4000 lbs.
     


  18. RussC

    RussC

    Joined Sep 11, 2015
    894 posts, 297 likes
    Macgregor 25
    US Vagabond 17. Oregon lakes
    I couldn't own a Beneteau. try as I might... I just can't pronounce it. ;)
     


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  19. MattA

    MattA

    Joined May 2, 2011
    3 posts, 0 likes
    Neptune 24
    US Tucson, AZ
    Look at a Neptune 24 made by Capitol Yachts
     


  20. Cujo665

    Cujo665

    Joined Jul 28, 2016
    20 posts, 2 likes
    O'day 23
    US Salem, Mass Salem, MA
    O'Day 23 later models worth a peek too
     



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