Trading Phases

Phil Herring

Alien
Mar 25, 1997
4,918
- - Bainbridge Island
When is it time to trade up to a bigger boat?

When your boat starts to feel too small? When it develops nagging maintenance problems and requires frequent repairs? When you fall in love with a different model?Or just because you can?

Is bigger truly better?

Or have you traded down to a smaller, more manageable boat?


Share your biggest and smallest ideas here.

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Oct 24, 2010
2,405
Hunter 30 Everett, WA
Bigger = more work to maintain, more cost, higher marina fees, and more difficult to find a spot at that destination. We tried to find a balance of big enough to be somewhat comfortable but minimized the above downsides. We could afford a bigger boat, but unless we were spending a lot more time on her, I think we are big enough.

Ken
 
Jul 7, 2004
8,402
Hunter 30T Cheney, KS
Our H30T almost maxes out the club crane capacity. "Bigger" on our pond means launching would not be practical or affordable.
 
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Nov 8, 2010
11,386
Beneteau First 36.7 & 260 Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
I've been up, down, up and down the size spectrum. 22, 25, 34, 23, 36, 26.

Based in Minneapolis we can sail 4 HOURS away in Bayfield, or 4 MINUTES away on Minnetonka. So you have lots of choices, but rarely a clear-cut one. While I've made difference choices in the past, for Jodi and I BlueJ 4 minutes away makes great sense. We have a blast racing, but she's a great cruiser as well, perfectly sized for the lake. When we retire it will be on to a 40 footer, carefully chosen to keep loads and sail handling simple and easy. We plan to do this for a long time.
 

Rick D

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Jun 14, 2008
7,138
Hunter Legend 40.5 Shoreline Marina Long Beach CA
We love our Hunter 40.5. We have had her for twenty good years. Having said that, the Vision 32 we had for nine years before it did just about everything this does for a couple and occasional guests. We are within an hour and a half of her (off commuting peak!).
 
Jan 2, 2017
765
O'Day & Islander 322 & 37 Scottsdale, AZ & Owls Head, ME
My O’Day 322 is a perfect size for Lake Pleasant, AZ.; although a Catalina 30 would do almost as well. There are a couple of Catalina 36s docked near me. Never seen them out!
 
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Jul 14, 2014
17
Beneteau Oceanus 390 Puerto Vallarta
I love being able to handle a smaller boat single handed, but I wanted something that didn't feel like camping for overnights, and felt moderately safe offshore. The tradeoff, of course, is you either need crew or sometimes a little assistance getting on the dock (my slip has a pretty fierce cross current). So, 39ft for me.
 
Mar 1, 2012
2,182
1961 Rhodes Meridian 25 Texas coast
Traded down and am totally happy. No longer have the UUMPH o maintain a bigger boat

Had a Cross 35. Lived aboard several years, with three. Now? nope :)
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Then went to a 21 footer-Which I still have. But the lack of head room gets old after about 12-14 days aboard
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So now I have my Meridian 25, which has worked out to be the perfect size. easy to single hand, room for two. And I have a trailer for her- just not a big enough vehicle to tow it :)
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May 23, 2016
217
O'Day 1984 23 Island Park, NY
Love having my 23 3 minutes away... But... When there friends asked me to join them in buying a42i jumped at the chance... One of these days she will be 15 minutes away... Well see who gets more attention

When SWMBO asks why not get a bigger boat, that's the time to get a bigger boat
 

JRT

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Feb 14, 2017
2,046
Catalina 310 211 Lake Guntersville, AL
When the wife says she wants something newer and bigger. The move from my O'day 25 to Catalina C310 was a good upgrade, I'd like to get a small boat to keep at home and trailer in a few years.
 
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Oct 19, 2017
7,744
O'Day 19 Littleton, NH
I always thought 50 feet would be about right as a fulltime live-aboard/ World cruiser. Many marines charge more per foot above 50 feet, but there is still room to have a project/art/ woodworking space or entertain guests on deck and barbecue. Even a boat that size can be designed to single-hand.
Having bought into a 19' weekender because of opportunity and cost, I am beginning to really appreciate the trailersailer that can go more places and get most of the way there at 60 mph. When your happy camping out of a backpack for multiple days, even 19' seems more like glamping. It sure is a lot less expensive than a 50 footer.
When is it time to move up or down? When the opportunity, finances and sailing focus have all come together to say, "time to let go and move on."

-Will (Dragonfly)
 

TomY

Alden Forum Moderator
Jun 22, 2004
2,759
Alden 38' Challenger yawl Rockport Harbor
When is it time to trade up to a bigger boat?
The time to get a bigger boat was always clear to me.

I had a 23' boat on Lake Champlain in VT that was perfect for the water and me at that time. Then I asked a girl to go sailing,.... The 23' boat was still handy for us on the lake.

Then I got the cruising bug and asked if she would like to skip a winter in Vermont. Again, she was game. Soon we were headed down Champlain, in a snowstorm, toward the Hudson River on a Cape Dory 28'. The 28' was perfect and affordable. We spent a year away, had our fill, and came back to VT with our first baby, not yet born.

And soon after, we had another (baby). The 28'er evolved including a starboard settee that would convert to a family sized couch or a folding pilot berth over,...
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,...and a port settee converted to dinette that could hold baby chairs.
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This worked so well in fact, we stole away the better part of another VT winter and took a 2 and 3 year old to the Bahamas in the 28'er.

The 28'er took us up the coast, past the Hudson this time, to Maine. It was a good boat to leave for weeks at a time and commute from VT for weekends, etc.

We moved that boat slowly up the coast over several years. Eventually, it sailed us into what would become our residence.

After a few more years I realized we had used it up. I'd run out of conversion ideas in the space, my family was growing.

A friend told me about a donated old Alden for sale. It was a big boat (in 1999), 38'. Cockpit, decks, below, I could see our sailing life nicely fitting the boat with room to spare.

2 kids, 2 pilot berths, no more conversions. You could walk by the cook in this boat. Everything fit inside the lockers, with room to spare. The wide decks all around opened new space we'd never seen.

I made an offer that was accepted quickly. A few months later, I was handed a check for the 28'er - that was exactly the amount remaining that was owed on the new boat,...the day before the closing.

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The biggest surprise was the range this boat added to our sailing. More miles easily covered in heavier conditions. Time spent onboard stretched out. Everyone was content and the four of us sailed through life

Time marches on. Over the last 20 years, 38' has shrunk to a 'medium sailboat'. It's mostly the two of us now so what was ample with four, is luxurious with two. We deserve that, I figure.

Bigger in our case was truly better. But bigger is relative. I say, fill your cup.
 
Oct 2, 2008
3,807
Pearson/ 530 Strafford, NH
Sadly I never moved up to the three masted boat I wanted after my wife had watched “White Squall”. Maybe in my next life.
 

RoyS

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Jun 3, 2012
1,742
Hunter 33 Steamboat Wharf, Hull, MA
Every time I bump my head or trip over something in my 33' I feel I need a bigger boat. On the other hand, my wife and I are 70 years old and a bigger boat may be too hard for us to handle. When docking our present boat has a low freeboard and my wife can jump down to the dock without breaking a leg. Would have to get a younger wife or maybe an Au pair with a bigger boat but my wife won't let me. When we could handle a bigger boat we could not afford one. Guess we will stick with the 33.
 
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JRT

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Feb 14, 2017
2,046
Catalina 310 211 Lake Guntersville, AL
Our 25' O'Day fit what we needed to start with and learn. Didn't really over analyze buying her at the time, I had a budget, and had looked at a lot of sailboats in very bad condition. The old 25 was the oldest boat but the best condition. 2+ years later we moved up to the C310 because the 25 showed what the family liked and didn't like. The move wasn't a need but an opportunity when the right boat came along. Not a ton of time under the C310, but I'm guessing that at least 5 years for her and maybe we move to the gulf and start marina hopping for our next life change post kids. But maybe we upgrade to that dream boat, Jeanneau 440 if life is kind to us...