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Tongue too light

Discussion in 'Ask A Macgregor Owner' started by sailnewbie, Jan 7, 2017. Add this thread to a FAQ

  1. sailnewbie

    sailnewbie

    Joined Feb 13, 2016
    548 posts, 39 likes
    macgreggor venture 224
    us athens ohio ohio river
    On my mac 224 i keep my yamaha 9.9 on while towing therefore making tongue a bit to lite for comfort under tow, before season again i intend to move axel back a bit. Question is how far! What should tongue weight be?
     


  2. justsomeguy

    justsomeguy

    Joined Feb 20, 2011
    5,246 posts, 388 likes
    MacGregor, Island Packet 35
    US Tucson, AZ/San Carlos, MX
    Tongue weight should be 10-15% of total.
     


  3. sailnewbie

    sailnewbie

    Joined Feb 13, 2016
    548 posts, 39 likes
    macgreggor venture 224
    us athens ohio ohio river
    My guess is im weighing in at 2400 and my tongue weight is maybe 60lbs, no wonder she wants to sway around on the highway!
     


  4. walt

    walt

    Joined Jun 1, 2007
    2,865 posts, 185 likes
    Macgregor 26S Hobie TI, Capri Coronado 15
    US Denver, Colorado
    On my 26S with the single axle trailer (somewhat similar), under 150 pounds tongue weight creates control issues. Over 200 pounds and it tows stable but other issue factor in also such as the height of the hitch. Also, is the boat sitting all the way forward on the trailer? This is often the main reason for low tongue weight.
     


  5. sailnewbie

    sailnewbie

    Joined Feb 13, 2016
    548 posts, 39 likes
    macgreggor venture 224
    us athens ohio ohio river
    Yea boats forward, towed fine til i started leaving outboard on but 2 shoulder surgerys now removing is not much of an option, guess ill cut loose and keep sliding back til 200lbs +- is achieved
     


  6. sailnewbie

    sailnewbie

    Joined Feb 13, 2016
    548 posts, 39 likes
    macgreggor venture 224
    us athens ohio ohio river
    Cut loose spring shackles i mean and adjust back to get proper tongue weight
     


  7. Sumner

    Sumner

    Joined Jan 31, 2009
    4,834 posts, 87 likes
    Macgregor 26S/Endeavour 37 .
    US Utah's Canyon Country
    The 10% to 15% is a place to start but I also feel you have leeway depending on what the tow vehicle is. My suburban and hitch is fine to 500#. I'm a little over 400#. If you tow with a heavier vehicle that has the capacity to have more tongue weight than say towing with a car more tongue weight isn't going to hurt, even if it is over the 15%. I like tongue weight myself up to what is acceptable. I wouldn't go right to 500# though. Also more weight on the tow vehicle means less weight on the trailer springs/axle/tires, but does put more stress on the tongue.

    What Walt said about trying to set the hitch up so the tongue is parallel to the road is a good idea.

    Also while the boat is on the trailer move as much as possible to the V-berth. Mount your spare on the tongue if it isn't already there, etc..

    Sumner
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  8. sailnewbie

    sailnewbie

    Joined Feb 13, 2016
    548 posts, 39 likes
    macgreggor venture 224
    us athens ohio ohio river
    We have a newer f150 so tongue weight shouldnt be an issue, i also like a even trailer/tongue, truck set up. My only scale for measuring tongue weight stops at 350lb, when that hits max i should be pretty good.
     


  9. Sumner

    Sumner

    Joined Jan 31, 2009
    4,834 posts, 87 likes
    Macgregor 26S/Endeavour 37 .
    US Utah's Canyon Country
  10. sailnewbie

    sailnewbie

    Joined Feb 13, 2016
    548 posts, 39 likes
    macgreggor venture 224
    us athens ohio ohio river
    Perfect! Thankyou, i would have never done it that way.
     


  11. All U Get

    All U Get

    Joined Oct 2, 2008
    2,226 posts, 136 likes
    Pearson/ 530
    US Strafford, NH
    My idea would be more beer in the bow to balance that OB. But I'm usually looking for the simple life.

    All U Get
     


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  12. sailnewbie

    sailnewbie

    Joined Feb 13, 2016
    548 posts, 39 likes
    macgreggor venture 224
    us athens ohio ohio river
    Genius, that does sound easier
     


  13. TortugasRoyal

    TortugasRoyal

    Joined Jan 31, 2013
    212 posts, 16 likes
    MacGregor Mac26X and Isotope 16 catamaran
    US Trailer sailing for adventure,
    I dunno. My girlfriend said my tongue weight is perfect. :p Don't overdo the pressure or later like they said, you will loose parallel. :what: Maybe shift some weight into the vberth. :liar: But a little tail wag is ok. :ass: Just don't slam the brakes. Maybe just add a little momentum and coast till wagging stops :pimp:
     


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  14. Ron20324

    Ron20324

    Joined Jan 22, 2008
    5,329 posts, 298 likes
    Beneteau 323
    US Annapolis MD
    [QUOTE="All U Get, ...My idea would be more beer in the bow to balance that OB..... [/QUOTE]

    Would that get you busted for "driving under the influence"?
     


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  15. justsomeguy

    justsomeguy

    Joined Feb 20, 2011
    5,246 posts, 388 likes
    MacGregor, Island Packet 35
    US Tucson, AZ/San Carlos, MX
    You'd be "ahead of the influence", not under it.
    The bigger problem may rest in the authorities thinking you might be a smuggler. :biggrin:
     


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  16. DAVA390

    DAVA390

    Joined Jul 13, 2010
    759 posts, 61 likes
    Precision 23
    US Perry Hall,Baltimore County
    Why do you not just put trailer tongue on the scale, with perhaps a 2" square plywood foot on the trailer pole?
     


  17. justsomeguy

    justsomeguy

    Joined Feb 20, 2011
    5,246 posts, 388 likes
    MacGregor, Island Packet 35
    US Tucson, AZ/San Carlos, MX
    Could be because your average bathroom scale can't handle much over 300 lbs, if that.
     


  18. CapnGL

    CapnGL

    Joined Sep 22, 2016
    114 posts, 29 likes
    MacGregor 26D
    US Idabo COUR D ALENE
    Is thought a 60/40 split whatever that works out to be. 60% on the tongue.
    Cheers
     


  19. CapnGL

    CapnGL

    Joined Sep 22, 2016
    114 posts, 29 likes
    MacGregor 26D
    US Idabo COUR D ALENE
     


  20. walt

    walt

    Joined Jun 1, 2007
    2,865 posts, 185 likes
    Macgregor 26S Hobie TI, Capri Coronado 15
    US Denver, Colorado
    From the etrailer web site (using the method Sumner suggested if the tongue weight exceeds the scale range

     



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