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so, I decided to see what's up with the rudder

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  1. Love and Luck

    Love and Luck

    Joined Sep 25, 2016
    76 posts, 30 likes
    Oday 22
    US Lake Arthur
    (I bought a 1972 Oday 22 for $500 18 months ago. Including the trailer and titles for all. She's a bit rough, but I sailed her last season and certainly got my money's worth out of her. Now I'm looking at doing some repairs, despite having never done this sort of thing before. The worst thing that happens is I destroy a $500 boat.)

    The rudder of my boat came complete with an unbelievably shitty repair done by a previous owner.

    The source of the damage was obvious: The repair was in the area where the rudder would contact the prop of the outboard motor. Clearly the rudder had sustained prop damage at some point.

    The previous owner's repair was almost laughable: Some sort of cement, maybe even straight Bondo, just slapped on. I wish I had a photo of this. There was no sanding. No finishing done of any kind. It was rough light grey cement just slathered there and left to dry.

    Of course, this was first on the list of things I was going to address. I got out the sander and took it off.

    Of course, it came off easy--it wasn't really attached to anything.

    That's when I discovered what it was covering up.

    Not damage to the rudder, but an earlier repair of such damage. Underneath the cement stuff was a layer of fiberglass. Cloth and epoxy. Just one layer, wrapped around the outside of the rudder as a repair. Not wrapped the whole way around. It only extended about four inches forward from the trailing edge of the rudder.

    The best thing about this layer of glass? It was laid over top of the blue paint of the rudder, which I can only assume was ablative bottom paint.

    Now, what's the defining characteristic of ablative bottom paint? That's right. NOTHING STICKS TO IT. so, if course the single layer of repair glass wasn't actually attached to anything. I shook my head in stunned amazement, then peeled that layer of glass off with my bare fingers. Didn't need a tool.

    So to recap: the cement blob was to hold down a peeling layer of glass that had been laid over ablative bottom paint. Successive layers of repairs, of increasing incompetence.

    Well, now I've decided to restore the whole rudder properly. So I've sanded all that paint off and ground down the original damage and I'm preparing to lay up a real fiberglass repair, then fair the whole damned thing before repainting it. The rudder is going to be the nicest part of the boat soon.

    And that's how I spent my morning.

  2. HMT2


    Joined Mar 20, 2014
    528 posts, 94 likes
    Hunter 31
    US Shoreacres, TX
    Enjoy! Fixing up a sailboat that if you screw it up it’s. I great loss is a great way to learn and I have come to actually enjoy it.

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  3. py26129


    Joined Oct 25, 2011
    572 posts, 93 likes
    Island Packet IP31
    CA Lake St. Louis, Montreal
    The stuff described above falls under the category of SPOTs. (Stupid Previous Owner Tricks)


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  4. Simon Sexton

    Simon Sexton

    Joined Nov 1, 2017
    229 posts, 73 likes
    Catalina 25 Tall Rig
    Valiant US Watergate Marina, Kemah, TX
    UH OH, you said the B-word...

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  5. Spooled Again

    Spooled Again

    Joined Dec 27, 2012
    371 posts, 32 likes
    Precision 22 (Sold), O 240 (Sold), Precision 28
    US Somers Point
    I had A similar situation on my rudder. I bought her last summer. When she was pulled for the winter I noticed the front edge of the rudder, mid height was leaking water. I started to sand the area and a large chunk just fell off the rudder. I eventually sanded the entire front edge and noticed horizontal cracks from top to bottom, mid section being the worst. What I also noticed was that the rudder had been previously repaired (properly) with what appeared to be epoxy. I believe the previous owner must of repaired the mid area with a poly filler. Poly is not compatible with epoxy. I reclothed and glassed the entire leading edge with epoxy resin and faired with thickened epoxy resin. Prior to repairing I let the rudder drain over the winter.

    I will see how she looks this winter but it should be good.

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  6. thinwater


    Joined Mar 26, 2011
    1,799 posts, 266 likes
    Corsair F-24 MK I
    US Deale, MD
    Pretty typical....

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  7. topcat0399


    Joined Aug 22, 2011
    980 posts, 66 likes
    MacGregor Venture V224
    US Cheeseland
    My rudder has chops from the prop out it also, for the 2nd time.
    I fixed it once, next time I'm going to make it into a proper foil.

    Gotta watch out while going in reverse with the motor running
    if you don't want your transom hung rudder to be ate by the outboard motor....

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