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Discussion in 'Ask A Macgregor Owner' started by lockep, Jan 18, 2019. Add this thread to a FAQ

  1. Rick Webb

    Rick Webb

    Joined Jun 2, 2004
    2,808 posts, 176 likes
    Hunter 23.5
    US Fort Walton Yacht Club, Florida
    NO!
    I would not take that one if he paid me $1,800
     


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  2. Scott T-Bird

    Scott T-Bird

    Joined Oct 26, 2008
    3,829 posts, 862 likes
    Starwind 27
    US Barnegat, NJ
    That boat looks like it is ready for disposal. Don't waste your time and money on it. Look around just a little bit more seriously and you should find something worthwhile, something that is clean and ready to sail.
     


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  3. Daveinet

    Daveinet

    Joined Sep 20, 2014
    1,002 posts, 205 likes
    Rob Legg RL24
    US Chain O'Lakes
    I would suggest buying something under 20 feet, and around 1000 bucks or less for your first boat. You want to use it as a learning experience, therefore buy something you won't loose a lot of money on. I understand the MAC looks exciting to get a 26 ft boat, but you don't know enough about boats to understand the potential expenses involved. The bigger the boat, the more expensive the repair parts are.
    I would suggest doing as I did. My first monohull was a 17 footer with a tiny cabin. I bought it for 1200 bucks, put $300 into it, and 3 years later, sold it for $1350. I knew I really didn't know much about boats, so I bought it with the intention of learning what I needed to know, with minimal impact on my pocket book. I learned how to look for rot. I learned the cost of hardware. I learned how to fabricate new windows. I learned how to fabricate a hatch cover. I learned a small fiberglass repair is ok, but no way I wanted a big project. I learned what makes a sailing rig good or bad and what lines are needed to shape the sail. I learned what baggy sails look like and how they impact how the boat sails, or doesn't. I learned that a small boat with a large stub keel sails a lot like a bowling ball. Basically it cost me 150 bucks and 3 years to learn how to buy the right boat. Make all your mistakes where the cost is minimal.
     


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  4. DayDreamer41

    DayDreamer41

    Joined Oct 29, 2016
    1,292 posts, 640 likes
    Hunter 41 DS
    Un Port Huron
    We are up to 24 posts and the OP @lockep hasn't returned or commented or otherwise acknowledged the advice within this forum hmmmmm.........
     


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  5. cb32863

    cb32863

    Joined Jun 29, 2010
    951 posts, 179 likes
    Beneteau First 235
    US Lake Minnetonka, MN
    Maybe he wanted us to tell him what he wanted to hear instead of sound advice. Been known to happen.
     


  6. lockep

    lockep

    Joined Jan 18, 2019
    4 posts, 3 likes
    Not Yet Not Yet
    US Glen Rose, TX
    Or my son made a surprise visit home form college and I was spending time with him and not on the internet.

    Thanks for all the advice...I will look for a smaller boat to learn with.
     


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  7. lockep

    lockep

    Joined Jan 18, 2019
    4 posts, 3 likes
    Not Yet Not Yet
    US Glen Rose, TX
    No hook em....gig em ags
     


  8. lockep

    lockep

    Joined Jan 18, 2019
    4 posts, 3 likes
    Not Yet Not Yet
    US Glen Rose, TX
    Your website is what made me start looking at the Mac 26
     


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  9. Scott T-Bird

    Scott T-Bird

    Joined Oct 26, 2008
    3,829 posts, 862 likes
    Starwind 27
    US Barnegat, NJ
    There isn't a better website than Sumner's for seeing what can be done with that boat. Your idea and heart might be in the right place. But I think you can start with a much better boat than the one you were looking at. You probably wouldn't want to get started with an irretrievable wreck. That's no insult to you. It's just the result of a whole lot of experience. Many of us learning the hard way BTW. :biggrin:
     


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  10. Rick Webb

    Rick Webb

    Joined Jun 2, 2004
    2,808 posts, 176 likes
    Hunter 23.5
    US Fort Walton Yacht Club, Florida
    A&M have a sailing club (other than in Galveston)? I know TU does. That'd be a good way to keep the kid busy and out of places he can't tell his mother about.
     


  11. Sumner

    Sumner

    Joined Jan 31, 2009
    5,215 posts, 265 likes
    Macgregor 26S/Endeavour 37 .
    US Utah's Canyon Country
    The D is a good boat but I agree with the others that you would end up putting a lot of money in that one. You could probably find a pretty good one ready to sail in the $4K to $5K range.

    The S and D are extremely easy to sail and learn on and are plenty fast and have a ton of room below and in the cockpit so I wouldn't discourage you from looking for one to start on after you have gone out some with others possibly and see if this is for you and your family,

    Sumner
    ======================================================================================
    1300 miles to The Bahamas and Back in the Mac...
    Endeavour 37 Mods...
    MacGregor 26-S Mods...
    Mac Trips to Utah, Idaho, Wyoming, Canada, Florida, Bahamas
     


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  12. FDL S2

    FDL S2

    Joined Jun 29, 2014
    276 posts, 132 likes
    S2 7.3
    US Fond du Lac
    I have an Aggie and a Longhorn in my family and as a Badger I like to throw that rivalry out there when we are all together and watch the show:)
     


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  13. RussC

    RussC

    Joined Sep 11, 2015
    1,219 posts, 564 likes
    Macgregor 25
    US Oregon lakes
    Or you might also look at the Mac 25. a lot of boat for the money these days. very similar performance to the 26, ballast is in the swing keel, not water ballast, and it's generally 2-3K less $ for comparable condition boats. I keep thinking we need to "upgrade" from our M25, but have yet to see anything that suits us better in the 4 years or so we've owned ours.
     


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  14. Freedom77

    Freedom77

    Joined Jul 29, 2010
    1,336 posts, 35 likes
    Macgregor 76 V-25 #928
    US Lake Mead, Nevada
    How many Aggies does it take to eat an armadillo? One to eat the Armadillo and two too watch for cars!:yikes:. Just kidding. A&M is a great school.
     


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  15. Meriachee

    Meriachee

    Joined Aug 1, 2011
    3,190 posts, 1,065 likes
    Catalina 270
    CA Wabamun - on the orange ball
    Inappropriate on a number of levels.
     


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  16. Simon Sexton

    Simon Sexton

    Joined Nov 1, 2017
    547 posts, 250 likes
    Catalina 25 Tall Rig
    Valiant US Watergate Marina, Kemah, TX
    :stir::stir::stir:
     


  17. Serenity on Hudson

    Serenity on Hudson

    Joined Sep 25, 2018
    46 posts, 24 likes
    Catalina Capri 22
    Serenity US Stony Point
    If it fly's, floats or something else starting with F, RENT IT. Sailing schools usually rent their boats. I've rented in Bermuda, Oyster Bay, Washington DC, SF Bay. Best to take a sailing course first, then rent different boats to see how you sail them. After test driving, your purchase will be based upon some facts. The fact is a sailboat can be very demanding of your time, not often thru sailing them. Took my lessons in 1986, rented til I finally bought a Hunter 23.5. Just selling it for my NTM Capri 22. Took a few years to decide that this boat fit my day sailing pattern.
     


  18. Todd Atchison

    Todd Atchison

    Joined Jan 25, 2017
    115 posts, 37 likes
    Macgregor V222
    US Kentucky Lake
    The post for the boat in question was removed before I had a chance to have a look. But, I don't even need to see it. I can tell by the descriptions your getting in over your head. That's just friendly advice. Look for my post "and so it begins" where I documented the restoration of our 1970 V222. It took nearly two years and we calculate that we may have spent over 5k on a boat and trailer that, at best is worth three thousand dollars on a good day. But because we will never sell this particular boat it's not a problem (it's all relative, but they are not investments, they are indeed holes in the water you pour money into). I'm not sure what they where asking for the 26 but given you experience level I would take some of the great advice given here get a Sunfish or Snark. You can put a snark on the top of your car and carry it anywhere, rig it in 5 minutes and be sailing in 15 minutes from the time you park. We have seven boats and my wife Molly insists the Snark is her favorite. You need to sail, sail, sail... and then sail some more. The physics and mechanics you learn on a Snark or Sunfish apply to any boat you will get next. If you are committed to a sloop buy one ready to sail. Two or three thousand dollars can get you something pretty solid. But $100 on Craigs list can get you going tomorrow and get you the practical experience you need before you hurt yourself, someone you love or worse one of us! LOL. There are no crash courses or magic wands. Pay your do's and learn. I promise you can have a blast on a Snark! Give us an update if you get a chance.
     


  19. Freedom77

    Freedom77

    Joined Jul 29, 2010
    1,336 posts, 35 likes
    Macgregor 76 V-25 #928
    US Lake Mead, Nevada
    Good advice from Todd and Serenity. Start small and work up. There are thousands of boats rotting in marinas and driveways.
     




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