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Screw on Boom Vang Hound

Discussion in 'Catalina 22' started by kclancy, Dec 26, 2017. Add this thread to a FAQ

  1. kclancy

    kclancy

    Joined Jul 25, 2016
    105 posts, 22 likes
    Catalina 22
    US Sacramento
    Hi All,

    I am trying to remove the hound from my mast. I am changing out the mast step. I can't seem to find the correct bit. I posted a picture. Any ideas? Should I just drill it out?

    Thanks,
    Kevin
     

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  2. justsomeguy

    justsomeguy

    Joined Feb 20, 2011
    6,181 posts, 740 likes
    Island Packet 35
    US Tucson, AZ/San Carlos, MX
    That's an odd one.
    Perhaps an Easy Out would fit?
     


  3. Ted

    Ted

    Joined Jan 26, 2005
    1,018 posts, 147 likes
    C&C 110
    US Bay Shore, Long Island, NY


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  4. justsomeguy

    justsomeguy

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    US Tucson, AZ/San Carlos, MX
    Will that driver unscrew the fastener?
     


  5. CloudDiver

    CloudDiver

    Joined Sep 8, 2014
    2,525 posts, 405 likes
    Catalina 22 Swing Keel
    US San Diego
    I purchased a set of tamper-proof bits from Fry's Electronics for about $19, covers all those little weird ones. Worst case, drill it out. At H-D the Milwaukee Cobalt drill bits are much better at drilling stainless that Dewalt Titanium Nitride.
     


  6. Ted

    Ted

    Joined Jan 26, 2005
    1,018 posts, 147 likes
    C&C 110
    US Bay Shore, Long Island, NY
    Yes.
     


  7. justsomeguy

    justsomeguy

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    But at 40+ dollars, I still don't see the efficacy.
     


  8. SG

    SG

    Joined Feb 11, 2017
    946 posts, 136 likes
    J/Boat J/160
    US Annapolis
    If you have to service a device with one other, you would see the efficacy.

    The real question why some would use a fastener like that a boat in that situation?..
     


  9. Ted

    Ted

    Joined Jan 26, 2005
    1,018 posts, 147 likes
    C&C 110
    US Bay Shore, Long Island, NY
    You don't have to buy the entire screwdriver handle and multiple bits. Just buy the single bit that you need to do the job. The link was just meant to show the tri-wing driver pattern. The driver bit only costs a couple of dollars.
     


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  10. Ron20324

    Ron20324

    Joined Jan 22, 2008
    6,061 posts, 521 likes
    Beneteau 323
    US Annapolis MD
    A six-point Torx/Star bit of the right size might fit the three slots?
     


  11. ShotgunSlim

    ShotgunSlim

    Joined Dec 5, 2011
    462 posts, 85 likes
    Catalina Catalina 22 #13632
    US Phenix City
    Looks like a four step process to me:
    1. Buy the proper bit that fits the tamper proof screw head.
    2. Apply a penetrating oil to the screw to loosen any corrosion between the dissimilar metals
    3. Remove the screw
    4. Find the person who did this and smack them vigorously in the back of the head.
     


  12. justsomeguy

    justsomeguy

    Joined Feb 20, 2011
    6,181 posts, 740 likes
    Island Packet 35
    US Tucson, AZ/San Carlos, MX
    I certainly agree with 3/4ths of your response, but I'd destroy those screws! ;)
     


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  13. LeslieTroyer

    LeslieTroyer

    Joined May 20, 2016
    1,518 posts, 473 likes
    Catalina 36 MK1
    US Everett, WA
    Vice grips - if that fails buy the driver bit

    Les
     


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  14. LakeShark

    LakeShark

    Joined Sep 15, 2016
    313 posts, 95 likes
    Catalina 22
    US Minnesota
    If you can't find or don't want to buy the bit there is an alternative that has worked well for me over the years. Use a dremel with a cutoff bit in it to cut a straight slot in the head of the screw. Then use a standard flat blade screwdriver to remove. Generally the cutting heats the screw to loosen any lock tight that may have been applied. If that does not work use the slot you cut and drive a punch at an angle to release the screw. Either the screw will come out or the head will snap and then you can drill it out. Just look online to make sure the screw is not reverse threaded as some security bits are.
     


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  15. Ron20324

    Ron20324

    Joined Jan 22, 2008
    6,061 posts, 521 likes
    Beneteau 323
    US Annapolis MD
    Two thoughts now... If it truly is a security screw, you may not be able to buy the bit, and if you did, can you really remove the security screw that the bit installed? Buy a left hand drill to drill out the screws. It just might bite the screw first, and back it out. Otherwise, it would drill away the screw. To install a boom bail on a previous/smaller boat, I used- instead of screws- an eye bolt and an eye nut so I could attach something to the boom.
     


  16. pateco

    pateco

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  17. kclancy

    kclancy

    Joined Jul 25, 2016
    105 posts, 22 likes
    Catalina 22
    US Sacramento
    Thanks for the responses everyone! I have just enough information to be my dangerous self now... ;)
     


  18. Stu Jackson

    Stu Jackson

    Joined Feb 26, 2004
    19,808 posts, 503 likes
    Catalina 34
    US Maple Bay, BC, Canada
    Good idea, Ron. I used through bolts & nylocks with a bushing with larger holes. Works on a boom, not so much for a mast.
     


  19. kclancy

    kclancy

    Joined Jul 25, 2016
    105 posts, 22 likes
    Catalina 22
    US Sacramento
    Hey Les- the vice grips worked like a charm! Thanks again!
     


  20. LeslieTroyer

    LeslieTroyer

    Joined May 20, 2016
    1,518 posts, 473 likes
    Catalina 36 MK1
    US Everett, WA
    Great. Glad it came off without resorting to a drill

    Les
     



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