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RESTORATION of '86 C22 "MOON DANCE"

Discussion in 'Catalina 22' started by SVMOONDANCE, Sep 18, 2017. Add this thread to a FAQ

  1. Hardhead

    Hardhead

    Joined Apr 11, 2017
    280 posts, 105 likes
    Catalina C22
    US Solomon's Island, MD
    10-4 on that!
     


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  2. SVMOONDANCE

    SVMOONDANCE

    Joined Aug 31, 2017
    101 posts, 62 likes
    Catalina Catalina 22
    US Tampa
    Well I'd like to be able to put in a full days work on the boat, but this damn rain won't let me. Anyways I got a little more wrk done today and yesterday. I was able to fill the gap under the lip with thickened resin and today I made some reinforcing tabs to put under the stanchions where the old glass that was there was gone. IMG_1706[1].JPG IMG_1707[1].JPG IMG_1703[1].JPG IMG_1704[1].JPG IMG_1705[1].JPG
     


  3. Hardhead

    Hardhead

    Joined Apr 11, 2017
    280 posts, 105 likes
    Catalina C22
    US Solomon's Island, MD
    Nice work -
    Interesting to watch the process-
     


  4. greg_m

    greg_m

    Joined May 23, 2017
    514 posts, 210 likes
    Catalina Jaguar 22
    ZA Simons Town
    :yeah:

    I can highly recommend the oscillating tool and a sharp round fine tooth hardened steel cutting disc. Go for "B-o-s-c-h" cutting tools as you will not get the quality from the cheaper alternatives.

    It's still very noisy but there is way less dust compared to an angle grinder and you have way more control over the actual cutting.
     


  5. greg_m

    greg_m

    Joined May 23, 2017
    514 posts, 210 likes
    Catalina Jaguar 22
    ZA Simons Town
    From my experience with my boat:
    Foredeck area: I can agree with the de-lamination on the foredeck being more of a wood bonding issue than actual fibreglass failure however I do have a foredeck hatch and that did allow water to get in to the wood around the hatch opening... wood was rotted.

    Side deck areas: Do not discount water leaking from the windows down into the side decks. That is what killed the wood in my boat in those areas. I went to great lengths to fill the gap around the openings between the outer skin of the deck/coach roof and the inner lining. There are also the wooden parts on the coach roof and the other fittings that could allow water to migrate down to the side decks laminates.

    I did my deck recore with the boat upside down because I was to scared to cut away the deck - so big up's to you for even starting the job!
     


  6. SVMOONDANCE

    SVMOONDANCE

    Joined Aug 31, 2017
    101 posts, 62 likes
    Catalina Catalina 22
    US Tampa
    IMG_1715.JPG IMG_1717.JPG IMG_1716.JPG Got some time today to finish getting the core dry fit.
     


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  7. berner73

    berner73

    Joined Jul 26, 2009
    169 posts, 15 likes
    Cal 28-2
    US Boston
    Lookin' good!
     


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  8. Gene Neill

    Gene Neill

    Joined Sep 30, 2013
    2,706 posts, 1,269 likes
    C-22, Albin Vega
    US central Florida
    Man that Coosa must have cost you, but how awesome is that. Totally worth it!
     


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  9. Hardhead

    Hardhead

    Joined Apr 11, 2017
    280 posts, 105 likes
    Catalina C22
    US Solomon's Island, MD
    Beautiful work - how did you match the fit so well?
     


  10. Gene Neill

    Gene Neill

    Joined Sep 30, 2013
    2,706 posts, 1,269 likes
    C-22, Albin Vega
    US central Florida
    He must have cheated and used the skins to trace a pattern. :biggrin:
     


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  11. SVMOONDANCE

    SVMOONDANCE

    Joined Aug 31, 2017
    101 posts, 62 likes
    Catalina Catalina 22
    US Tampa
    Don't be giving away my secrets Gene! lol
     


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  12. greg_m

    greg_m

    Joined May 23, 2017
    514 posts, 210 likes
    Catalina Jaguar 22
    ZA Simons Town
    Thats some quick work going on there. How does the "coosa" board conform to compound curves?

    I had to cut grooves in the plywood because it was too stiff to bend into the curves. Also ended up having to cut into sections for same reason and also space to get pieces inside the boat!
     


  13. SVMOONDANCE

    SVMOONDANCE

    Joined Aug 31, 2017
    101 posts, 62 likes
    Catalina Catalina 22
    US Tampa
    The coosa bends EXTREMELY easy especially when it's only 1/4" thick. The only thing I don't like about working with it is the amount of fiberglass I get in my hands from it.
     


  14. little breeze

    little breeze

    Joined Jan 23, 2015
    69 posts, 10 likes
    catalina catalina22
    US Trailer
    Fantastic Job . That is a big job. thanks for the tip with the oscillating tool . I have used a cutting wheel on a grinder for years with a die grinder. My next investment thank you...
     


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  15. greg_m

    greg_m

    Joined May 23, 2017
    514 posts, 210 likes
    Catalina Jaguar 22
    ZA Simons Town
    Yep - I can highly recommend this type of tool... problem is now you start thinking about all those little jobs requiring surgical precision that you would never had touched using an angle grinder!
     


  16. ECUmedford

    ECUmedford

    Joined Aug 7, 2018
    9 posts, 1 likes
    Catalina 22
    6939 US Lake Waccamaw, NC
    I am really curious how this project ended up turning out. I have a large soft spot on the left side of my hatch that needs to be fixed. I haven't noticed any delamination anywhere else. I want to get rid of all of the spidering in my gel coat on the top deck and repaint it this winter while also repairing my soft spot. Also, there seems to be a lot of stress spidering around the stay mounts. Thinking about filling those with epoxy and redrilling them out.

    If I am going to go through the trouble of all of this, should I cut out the entire top deck like this and redo it all or just spot fix?
     


  17. SVMOONDANCE

    SVMOONDANCE

    Joined Aug 31, 2017
    101 posts, 62 likes
    Catalina Catalina 22
    US Tampa
    I haven’t been able to finish my project yet due to the never ending rain here in Tampa. The issue with my foredeck was a combination of water intrusion around the lifeline stanchions and dry delamination in front of the cabin top. I’m not sure if you have the newer model like me or the first model. It’s really hard to tell you what should be done to yours without seeing it myself. If you have anyway to borrow a moisture meter I’d do that to find out if it’s water intrusion or just delamination. If not the next best thing would be is to use a small drill bit and drill a hole and check that way. As for spider cracks I would check out Boatworks Today on YouTube. He has lots of great info on his channel. Best of luck and full sails!
     


  18. mm2347

    mm2347

    Joined Oct 21, 2008
    229 posts, 27 likes
    oday 222
    US niagara
    The key to a quality cored part is the bonding of the core to the skins. As in all composite parts you have to get the air out. One method is to draw a square grid pattern (about 2 inch squares and drill a 3/16 hole in the center of each square. Not only will the holes act as "bleeders" they form compression posts that also aid in the bonding of the components. The slight weight gain is insignificant in most cases. If your core material is stiff , cutting slices about 2/3rds deep into that grid pattern will help your core to lay down. Last but not least is to vacuum bag it.
     


  19. SVMOONDANCE

    SVMOONDANCE

    Joined Aug 31, 2017
    101 posts, 62 likes
    Catalina Catalina 22
    US Tampa
    Sorry for the long hiatus folks! Had a kid and well you know how that goes. Anyways stay tuned. Going to be placing a big order with Totalboat in a couple days.
     


  20. Simon Sexton

    Simon Sexton

    Joined Nov 1, 2017
    523 posts, 234 likes
    Catalina 25 Tall Rig
    Valiant US Watergate Marina, Kemah, TX
    Hm. Yeah, those kid things kinda slow people down a lil bit ;) especially if they're new.
     




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