RESTORATION of '86 C22 "MOON DANCE"

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  1. SVMOONDANCE

    SVMOONDANCE

    Joined Aug 31, 2017
    101 posts, 62 likes
    Catalina Catalina 22
    US Tampa
    Today I removed all the stanchions and chain plates so I could begin cutting the deck. The only problems I had were the outer stanchion hardware which were behind the inner liner lip. I cut out a small section of the lip to gain access to the hardware. Then the cutting commenced. The foredeck didn't seem to have to much water intrusion but the glue in the plywood core let go. The majority of the water intrusion is in the side decks and it looks like it came in through the stanchions mounts. Stay tuned for more. IMG_1688.JPG IMG_1691.JPG IMG_1692.JPG
     


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  2. berner73

    berner73

    Joined Jul 26, 2009
    169 posts, 15 likes
    Cal 28-2
    US Boston
    Whoa! Now that's a commitment.

    If you haven't seen it, Andy over at Boatworks Today is in the middle of a similar project, although at a much different scale. There are several segments, very interesting to watch.

     


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  3. SVMOONDANCE

    SVMOONDANCE

    Joined Aug 31, 2017
    101 posts, 62 likes
    Catalina Catalina 22
    US Tampa
    Yeah Andy has some great info on his channel! I watch alot of his episodes.
     


  4. Hardhead

    Hardhead

    Joined Apr 11, 2017
    323 posts, 122 likes
    Catalina C22
    US Solomon's Island, MD
    Did you use an angle grinder to cut through the deck covering?
     


  5. SVMOONDANCE

    SVMOONDANCE

    Joined Aug 31, 2017
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    Catalina Catalina 22
    US Tampa
    I used an oscillating multi tool. It makes for a thinner cut with less dust.
     


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  6. Hardhead

    Hardhead

    Joined Apr 11, 2017
    323 posts, 122 likes
    Catalina C22
    US Solomon's Island, MD
    Thanks - Good idea.

    If you get the time to post, I'd really like to see the basics of how you go through it-

    I think if a boat owner can handle that, there's nothing else you can't handle. My hat is off to you sir.
     


  7. SVMOONDANCE

    SVMOONDANCE

    Joined Aug 31, 2017
    101 posts, 62 likes
    Catalina Catalina 22
    US Tampa
    Will do! My hopes are that I won't get to busy on it to take the time to pause between each step to document it.
     


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  8. pclarksurf

    pclarksurf

    Joined Jul 13, 2015
    538 posts, 294 likes
    Catalina 22 #2552
    US Kennewick, WA
    Love it-- tear that bad girl up!

    classic that you noted the ply giving way under the perfectly dry deck-- I have found that 90% of what most would call delaminated is really just that-- dry wood sandwich giving up the glue, and allowing the gel-coat above to flex.

    Love the pics-- keep 'em coming, I'll be interested in how you fill back in.
     


  9. Love and Luck

    Love and Luck

    Joined Sep 25, 2016
    86 posts, 39 likes
    Oday 22
    US Lake Arthur
    I'm going to have to do something like this, or trade in for another boat, sometime in the not-too-distant future.

    So count me among the interested in further details crowd.

    Good luck!
     


  10. Capt jgw

    Capt jgw

    Joined Feb 8, 2014
    1,034 posts, 72 likes
    Columbia 36
    US Muskegon
    Also check Mads on the Sail Life Youtube channel. He's not the pro that Andy is but he's doing the exact same job on a larger boat. Great entertainment too.
     


  11. Hardhead

    Hardhead

    Joined Apr 11, 2017
    323 posts, 122 likes
    Catalina C22
    US Solomon's Island, MD
    When you cut out around the v-berth skylight opening - did you notice if the plywood core went right up flush against the skylight?

    I ask because I have an 87', and it appears mine has a light tan epoxy in the place of the plywood core surrounding the skylight, and also the same surrounding the upper chain plate slits through the deck. I was surprised to see it that way. Maybe it's a prior repair done well by a previous owner, or I'm just not looking at it correctly. I've had leaking chain plates myself and also concerned about rot.
     


  12. SVMOONDANCE

    SVMOONDANCE

    Joined Aug 31, 2017
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    Catalina Catalina 22
    US Tampa
    No they had some type of filler that went around the skylight. And on that note, the skylight will not be making a reappearance.
     


  13. SVMOONDANCE

    SVMOONDANCE

    Joined Aug 31, 2017
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    Catalina Catalina 22
    US Tampa
    Went and picked up the core material. Went with 1/4" 20 lbs density Coosa board. IMG_1693[1].JPG IMG_1694[1].JPG
     


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  14. Gene Neill

    Gene Neill

    Joined Sep 30, 2013
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    C-22, Albin Vega
    US central Florida
  15. Leeward Rail

    Leeward Rail

    Joined Mar 20, 2015
    1,672 posts, 429 likes
    Catalina 22 New Style
    CA SHSC, Lake Winnipeg
    I'm waiting for the.. "I'm cutting out the forward hatch, doing some fibreglass work and installing a nice one like the later new design" portion of this thread. :D

    FWIW: on my boat the epoxy around the skylight wasn't complete. I made a nice wood frame for the interior and replaced the deck portion with a piece of lexan. That way, if it ever leaked, the water didn't get trapped between the two clear panels. Much better to simply remove it IMO.
     


  16. SVMOONDANCE

    SVMOONDANCE

    Joined Aug 31, 2017
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    Catalina Catalina 22
    US Tampa
    LR I'm getting rid of the sky light, glassing it over! I don't want to have to worry about it ever coming loose again and letting water ruin the next set of cushions. Re-doing the glass for a bomar hatch is way too much work for me! lol. CD makes a 1/2" curved plexi hatch replacement if I ever decided to go that route. http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm/product/1764_450/hatch-forward-retrofit-c-22.cfm
     


  17. Leeward Rail

    Leeward Rail

    Joined Mar 20, 2015
    1,672 posts, 429 likes
    Catalina 22 New Style
    CA SHSC, Lake Winnipeg
    Yeah I was just helping other who are keeping their tiny "skylight". I'd remove it, if i was in your shoes.
    Thanks for the reminder about the plexi hatch. I'd seen it before but completely forgot about it.
    I coveted it when I saw it but the price was daunting. $745 USD+$65 shipping
     


  18. SVMOONDANCE

    SVMOONDANCE

    Joined Aug 31, 2017
    101 posts, 62 likes
    Catalina Catalina 22
    US Tampa
    Jees, I don't think I need that much light in the cabin now that you mention the price.
     


  19. SVMOONDANCE

    SVMOONDANCE

    Joined Aug 31, 2017
    101 posts, 62 likes
    Catalina Catalina 22
    US Tampa
    IMG_1698.JPG IMG_1699.JPG IMG_1700.JPG IMG_1701.JPG Today I got the starboard deck skin and Core removed. Then I sanded the fiberglass with 40 grit sandpaper so that I get a good mechanical bond. Removing the thin wood that was still stuck to the fiberglass was simple with the use of a wood chisel. I also got one of the skins cleaned and sanded.
     


  20. Gene Neill

    Gene Neill

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    C-22, Albin Vega
    US central Florida
    Damn ... you're good, dude. Look how clean that work is! :thumbup:
     




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