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Replacement windlass for C30 mk II / III

Discussion in 'Catalina 30' started by Hayden Watson, Jan 3, 2018. Add this thread to a FAQ

  1. Hayden Watson

    Hayden Watson

    Joined Apr 5, 2009
    525 posts, 105 likes
    Catalina '88 C30 tr/bs
    US Oak Harbor, WA
    The factory windlass on my 88 C30 is nearing the end of its life and I am looking for a replacement. I would like to mount the new one in the same location but would like to be able to handle both chain and rode. Any suggestions?
     


  2. Dave Groshong

    Dave Groshong SBO Staff Staff Member

    Joined Jan 25, 2007
    1,262 posts, 74 likes
    Catalina 22
    US Seattle
    We offer Lewmar and Quick windlasses, give me a call if you'd like to discuss this.
    877-932-7245 x116
    Mon-Fri, 9-3:30 Pacific
     


  3. Damifudo

    Damifudo

    Joined Sep 25, 2015
    59 posts, 7 likes
    Catalina 30
    US Middle River
    Any Pictures of your factory installed windlass? I am interested in seeing the set up from the factory. Thanks
     


  4. dnimigon

    dnimigon

    Joined Mar 9, 2012
    27 posts, 1 likes
    Catalina 30
    US PVR
    Do you have a pic of your old one by chance
     


  5. mortyd

    mortyd

    Joined Dec 11, 2004
    937 posts, 12 likes
    Catalina 30
    US easy living
    factory windlass?
     


  6. Hayden Watson

    Hayden Watson

    Joined Apr 5, 2009
    525 posts, 105 likes
    Catalina '88 C30 tr/bs
    US Oak Harbor, WA
    Here is what Catalina mounted in the C30 MkII. I think they also used it in the 34 & maybe the 36 as well. I believe it is a vertical windlass mounted horizontally
    Catalina 30 windlass photo.jpg
     


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  7. Damifudo

    Damifudo

    Joined Sep 25, 2015
    59 posts, 7 likes
    Catalina 30
    US Middle River
    I am going to sound really dumb. But do you just wrap the chain around the drum to get it to pull up the anchor chain?
    What does the inside of the boat look like and how do you access the motor?
     


  8. Hayden Watson

    Hayden Watson

    Joined Apr 5, 2009
    525 posts, 105 likes
    Catalina '88 C30 tr/bs
    US Oak Harbor, WA
    I currently have a 35# CQR with about 30' of 5/16" chain and 250' of 1/2" rode. I usually use the windlass up to the chain/rode splice and then hand haul it the last 30' but you can use the capstan to haul the chain as well. with 3 turns it does not slip much if you keep some tension on it. For mounting there is an access port at the foot of the V-birth to get to the motor.
     


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  9. Ward H

    Ward H

    Joined Nov 7, 2011
    1,757 posts, 174 likes
    Catalina 30 Mk II
    US Barnegat, NJ
    My 93 C30 has the same OEM windlass. Didn't work during the survey but the surveyor did check some connections and suggested it was just the switch. On my to do list to get it working.
     


  10. Hayden Watson

    Hayden Watson

    Joined Apr 5, 2009
    525 posts, 105 likes
    Catalina '88 C30 tr/bs
    US Oak Harbor, WA
    My switch also failed about 12 years ago due to not being properly sealed. I replaced it and it has worked well since then but the windlass is 30 years old this year so I suspect it will need replacing before too many more years. I would also like to go to longer chain so a chain/rode gypsy would be nice.
     


  11. jssailem

    jssailem

    Joined Oct 22, 2014
    5,541 posts, 1,836 likes
    CAL 35 Cruiser
    US Salem, Moored Port Everett WA
    Ward and Hayden. I had a positive experience working with Dave here at SBO to replace my manual windlass with a new Lewmar electric windlass. My friend Les Troyer helped me remove the 130 feet of chain, anchor and windlass. We worked to remove some real old caulk. Exciting was the cutting of the bolts to remove the anchor roller.
    Now the planning begins to locate the new windlass and electrical system to power the new system.
     


  12. Hayden Watson

    Hayden Watson

    Joined Apr 5, 2009
    525 posts, 105 likes
    Catalina '88 C30 tr/bs
    US Oak Harbor, WA
    I am hoping that someone has replaced the capstan only OEM with a chain/rode in the same location.
     


  13. jssailem

    jssailem

    Joined Oct 22, 2014
    5,541 posts, 1,836 likes
    CAL 35 Cruiser
    US Salem, Moored Port Everett WA
    Are you thinking you want to remove the capstan and replace it with a gypsy?
    Would likely need to know the original manufacturer and how it is attached to the motor.
    Will need to match your chain type and size, as well as rode diameter to the gypsy.
     


  14. Ward H

    Ward H

    Joined Nov 7, 2011
    1,757 posts, 174 likes
    Catalina 30 Mk II
    US Barnegat, NJ
    Surveyor noted mine is a Maxwell. I see they are still in business. Need to crawl up into v berth and find a model number.
     


  15. LeslieTroyer

    LeslieTroyer

    Joined May 20, 2016
    1,607 posts, 532 likes
    Catalina 36 MK1
    US Everett, WA
    Ward you are correct. Catalina used Maxwells from the factory. If the gipsy and gears are ok but motor burned out, you can get the motor rewound for a lot less than a new windlass.

    The biggest cause of burned up motors is low voltage at the motor caused by poor connections or wire runs too long and too small. Clean and check all connections including points in contractor. Check wire size against chart for line loss.

    Mahalo
    Les
     


  16. Hayden Watson

    Hayden Watson

    Joined Apr 5, 2009
    525 posts, 105 likes
    Catalina '88 C30 tr/bs
    US Oak Harbor, WA
    I would also like to get a chain/rode gypsy so that I could use longer chain. At one time I heard that Maxwell made a conversion kit for capstan to gypsy but I think that it is no longer available.
     


  17. Ward H

    Ward H

    Joined Nov 7, 2011
    1,757 posts, 174 likes
    Catalina 30 Mk II
    US Barnegat, NJ
    That is good to know.
    The windlass, as well as most of the primary DC circuits, are wired with 4 SAE. The breaker is 80A. Using a conservative round trip length of 40' and 60A draw, voltage drop will be 5% and that doesn't account for voltage from the other undersize wiring.
    I have some wiring upgrades to do.
    Saturday is forecasted to be in the 50s and sunny, a nice break from the cold we have been having. Plan to spend a day getting to know the boat and the winch may be one of the things I check.
     


  18. LeslieTroyer

    LeslieTroyer

    Joined May 20, 2016
    1,607 posts, 532 likes
    Catalina 36 MK1
    US Everett, WA
    I have 1/0 running from a bow Battery to my windlass probably 20’ round trip. The bow Battery is feed from #4 via an ACR for charging.

    Mahalo
     



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