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Repairing Hunter 40 damage from Hurricane Matthew

Discussion in 'Big Boats' started by B757Captain, Nov 30, 2016. Add this thread to a FAQ

  1. CYQK

    CYQK

    Joined Sep 11, 2009
    299 posts, 11 likes
    beneteau first 42
    US kenora
    Mark
    Been reading all your posts doin a great job!!!!!!!
    Thks
     


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  2. Kh3412

    Kh3412

    Joined Oct 11, 2012
    49 posts, 2 likes
    Catalina 34
    US Lake Erie
    Love following your progress. Keep up the great work.
     


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  3. JRacer

    JRacer

    Joined Aug 9, 2011
    558 posts, 100 likes
    Beneteau 310
    US Wichita, Kansas Cheney KS (Wichita)
    Hope you are hunkering down!
     


  4. B757Captain

    B757Captain

    Joined May 8, 2013
    172 posts, 78 likes
    Hunter 40
    US Dataw Island, SC
    Watching closely! Latest prognostication (?) looks to miss us here but too early to say for sure.

    I have been working on a progress update, maybe later tonite. Lots of work done.

    Cheers,

    Mark
     


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  5. B757Captain

    B757Captain

    Joined May 8, 2013
    172 posts, 78 likes
    Hunter 40
    US Dataw Island, SC
    Long overdue update:

    I've been slammed with various projects -

    - hurricane prep for Irma which hit us as a tropical storm. No damage, thankfully!
    - boat projects
    - a new toy for my birthday:

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    But this is a boat forum, so on to boat projects!

    Finishing up the work on the bow, I wanted to beef up the attach points for the cleats, so I fabbed up some backing plates for the thru-bolts:

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    The old bolts were corroded, and too short for the backing plates, so new bolts ordered (plus a few extra, the aft cleats might need new ones too):

    [​IMG]

    And everything installed and torqued down:

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    You might notice in the last pic - the roller furler. Yep, we got the mast back up! I know that for you guys in the northeast stepping and unstepping the mast is a yearly thing, but down here it's a big thing!

    So, it doesn't leak, it floats, I could motor down the river if I needed to, and now I could sail it if I had to. It's a sailboat again! (minus a few things yet, of course)

    Next up, more portlights!

    Cheers,

    Mark
     


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  6. smokey73

    smokey73

    Joined Oct 26, 2010
    442 posts, 55 likes
    Hunter 40.5
    US Beaufort, SC
    Like the backing plates. Did you use Stainless or Aluminum and what thickness? May do that myself.
     


  7. Puesta del sol

    Puesta del sol

    Joined Jan 1, 2014
    109 posts, 7 likes
    Hunter 42
    US Chesapeake
    Mark

    I have enjoyed following your progress and "it floats" was an excellent entry - looking forward to seeing the final interior and exterior work - and most importantly some pics and video of it under sail. The people worried about insurance and resale crack me up. I love doing the work on my boat (thankfully nothing to the extent of yours) and knowing how things work and their condition helps me enjoy the sailing much more.

    Good luck as you finish it out. nice vet

    Keith
     


  8. B757Captain

    B757Captain

    Joined May 8, 2013
    172 posts, 78 likes
    Hunter 40
    US Dataw Island, SC
    I used 1/8th x 1 x 6 stainless. I figured that since the bolts are stainless it would be better to have similar materials. If your setup is like mine, the bow cleats are only secured through the toerail via the bolts with a nut and washer. Strong enough for normal use but as I found out a really hard jerk (or five, or seven!) will damage the toerail. I did replace the bolts with longer ones - the port (undamaged) side had enough threads on the original bolt for the new backing plate but he starboard didn't due to the increase in thickness of my toerail repair.

    The aft cleats are through-bolted through the deck and have backing plates accessible via the lazarette. I did have one side pull loose so I will probably beef up the backing plates there too.

    Cheers,

    Mark
     


  9. smokey73

    smokey73

    Joined Oct 26, 2010
    442 posts, 55 likes
    Hunter 40.5
    US Beaufort, SC
    Thanks for the insights on the backing plates. I'm over in Beaufort at BYSC. I know in a real blow on the mooring the bow cleats can be a weak link. A boat here had this cleats "rip out" during the very hard blow we had a few months before Hurricane Matthew. He was on the boat and could save the boat by motoring into the river and holding it there until the 30 minute or so blow passed by. I think I'll make the same modification. My toe rails are aluminum anyway so the dissimilar metal already exists. I may use 1/8 inch aircraft Al that I already have on hand.
     


  10. pateco

    pateco

    Joined Aug 12, 2014
    1,378 posts, 191 likes
    Hunter 31 (1983)
    US Pompano Beach FL
    Mark,

    What size cleats are those?

    I am thinking of adding some mid deck rail cleats by notching and grinding down the vertical portion of my toe rail about half way down the length of the boat, and through bolting some new cleats like the ones on your bow.

    Has anyone else done this to their Hunter with the aluminum toe rails?
     


  11. Puesta del sol

    Puesta del sol

    Joined Jan 1, 2014
    109 posts, 7 likes
    Hunter 42
    US Chesapeake
    One of the passage 42 owners added midship cleats. Not sure how to provide the link here. Go to owner mods for a '42' and scroll down until you find cleat modification
     


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  12. pateco

    pateco

    Joined Aug 12, 2014
    1,378 posts, 191 likes
    Hunter 31 (1983)
    US Pompano Beach FL

    Thanks Keith, I found the Mod article and linked it below. This is exactly what I wished to do, but with open based cleats like the ones on my bow.


    He says he used 10" cleats.

    Mid Ship Cleat

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    This is what the ones currently on my bow look like.

    2017-06-24 15.10.17.jpg
     


    Last edited: Sep 19, 2017
  13. Rick D

    Rick D

    Joined Jun 14, 2008
    6,350 posts, 120 likes
    Hunter Legend 40.5
    US Long Beach, Shoreline Marina, CA
    I have never heard of a 40.5 losing a clear. That outward flange has to be among the toughest parts. One I know did lose the anchor roller and some deck when a whale tried to drag it and a Coral head
    The coral head won. I inspected a 410 that lost a cleat and a chunk of bow deck when it tried to continuously lift a concrete mooring during a large storm in Avalon with hurricane force winds and huge seas.
     


  14. smokey73

    smokey73

    Joined Oct 26, 2010
    442 posts, 55 likes
    Hunter 40.5
    US Beaufort, SC
    It wasn't a 40.5 that lost the cleat. It was another manufacturer but I'm not sure what brand.
     


  15. B757Captain

    B757Captain

    Joined May 8, 2013
    172 posts, 78 likes
    Hunter 40
    US Dataw Island, SC
    Thanks Keith!
     


  16. B757Captain

    B757Captain

    Joined May 8, 2013
    172 posts, 78 likes
    Hunter 40
    US Dataw Island, SC
    The bow cleats are the factory 10" aluminum and I had an impossible time trying to find new ones. Originally I was going to replace them since the bolts had corroded in the cleats and couldn't be removed but none of the correct size cleats currently available have the same bolt centers. I wasn't keen on filling and re-drilling the deck so I drilled the bolts out of the cleats so I could reuse them. Not an easy task!. Going back together I liberally coated the bolts with anti-seize compound. Hopefully that will prevent a recurrence.

    I like the idea of the mid-ships cleat. Worth considering for mine also.
     


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  17. pateco

    pateco

    Joined Aug 12, 2014
    1,378 posts, 191 likes
    Hunter 31 (1983)
    US Pompano Beach FL
    Running out of cleats while trying to prepare and tie up for Hurricane Irma got me thinking about what I need for future storms. I had to use the genoa cars and snatch blocks on the rail midships tied back to winches. Not an optimal solution. Mid-ship cleats are definitely on my to do list.

    2017-09-08 14.45.29.jpg
     


    Last edited: Sep 20, 2017
  18. HMT2

    HMT2

    Joined Mar 20, 2014
    457 posts, 57 likes
    Hunter 31
    US Houston, Texas Shoreacres, TX
    Chip,

    I have mid ship cleats on my '83. Here is a picture of the way they are installed. They were there when we bought the boat. They sure are handy
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  19. Kermit

    Kermit

    Joined Jul 31, 2010
    3,694 posts, 867 likes
    Hunter 260
    US Sumter, SC Lake Murray Sailing Club, SC
    Both my boats have had midship cleats. I can't imagine why a builder would even consider not installing them. Should be a federal requirement.
     


  20. B757Captain

    B757Captain

    Joined May 8, 2013
    172 posts, 78 likes
    Hunter 40
    US Dataw Island, SC
    Portlights:

    I don't remember if I mentioned it before, but a while back I got a smoking deal from Defender on some Lewmar portlights. Yes, please! Replacing all the cabin portlights has been on the project list for years, ever since I figured out that the originals (Bomar) could not be repaired. They leaked really bad and I had finally siliconed them closed. Now seemed to be a good time to swap them out. Of course the afternoon rain showers that were NOT in the forecast did in fact happen during the swap but I managed in the end.

    I'm not going to do a photo op of the install, lots of videos out there showing how. just the highlights:

    The stack of boxes became this pile of boxes:

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    There were a total of six portlights installed.

    This pile of old-and-busted:

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    Became this new hotness:

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    I converted the center portlights from opening to fixed last year so they stayed. I'm still debating whether to change them out - the replacement Lewmars for that size are really pricey!

    Not too difficult to swap them, I lucked out - the old openings were a tiny bit smaller than the cutouts I needed to make. I was petrified before starting this that the opposite would be the case! Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good!

    Next up: The smell of paint (or in this case, primer).

    Cheers,

    Mark
     


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