Picture of a Spinnaker

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  1. clnhse

    clnhse

    Joined Aug 6, 2018
    18 posts, 1 likes
    hunter 22
    00 us Grand isle
    Does anyone have a picture of a H 22 with the Spinnaker package? I would like to see how the pole is attached to the interior?
     


  2. Hunter216

    Hunter216

    Joined Sep 22, 2018
    178 posts, 48 likes
    Hunter 216
    CA Kingston
    Just a suggestion but can you clarify which H 22 you are referring to? They "recently" replaced their 216 model with a fiberglass version and called it a 22, they also had a pocket cruiser called the 22 - the pocket cruiser according to the manual doesn't refer to having a spinnaker.
     


  3. clnhse

    clnhse

    Joined Aug 6, 2018
    18 posts, 1 likes
    hunter 22
    00 us Grand isle
    You are correct. This is a 2014 Marlow Hunter 22, the old 216. I struggle with help on this boat. To make matters worst the boom and mast are US Spars which is odd for some reason. Nothing matches the manuals.
     


  4. Jackdaw

    Jackdaw

    Joined Nov 8, 2010
    10,073 posts, 3,082 likes
    Beneteau First 36.7 & 260
    US Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
    I might be able to help. The asym setup of the H20 should look a lot like the J/70, which I know well. Here is the cabin of the H20, without the pole (but ready for one).

    MH22_interior-H02.jpg

    Now the J70. Same angle. You can see that the line use to extend the pole is attached to the aft end of the pole and runs forward to a block, and then back through the bulkhead. The pole with the USA sticker on it is the boom in storage. The line on port is the furler, ignore that.

    j70pole.jpg


    Outside. You can see the line coming through the bulkhead. Yes that can leak. The line is pulled to extend the pole, then cleated. When you are done with the pole, the line is uncleated, and the tackline is pulled in to retract the pole. On the 70 the tackline runs along the deck to a block at the pole end, probably on the H20 as well.

    j70cockpit.jpg

    EDIT - This picture dos not show the pole line coming thru the bulkhead, so it might terminate and cleat inside. Same effect, just much harder to use say while racing.

    MH22_running-H02.jpg
     


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  5. Hunter216

    Hunter216

    Joined Sep 22, 2018
    178 posts, 48 likes
    Hunter 216
    CA Kingston
    CL
    I can understand your frustration as I can’t find much info on the “new” H22 either. I did come across this and there are some photos of the asym flying where it’s clear the bowsprit exits the interior as Jackdaw says. I have learned that Jackdaw really know his stuff so the info he supplied can be trusted as accurate.

    I have the 216 and the sprit is mounted on the cabin top so I can’t really offer much. You might contact the SBO store and see if they could send you the install direction for the kit.

    https://www.marlow-hunter.com/fiber...t-and-convenience/nggallery/thumbnails/page/2
     


  6. clnhse

    clnhse

    Joined Aug 6, 2018
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    hunter 22
    00 us Grand isle
    They told me they are working on a kit.
     


  7. Hunter216

    Hunter216

    Joined Sep 22, 2018
    178 posts, 48 likes
    Hunter 216
    CA Kingston
    From the marketing material I found it looked like they launched the product with two versions. A family friendly enhanced cabin etc one and a “performance” version that has a traveller, spin setup etc.
    I assume you have the nicer cabin model and want to add some zoom-zoom.
     


  8. Jackdaw

    Jackdaw

    Joined Nov 8, 2010
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    Beneteau First 36.7 & 260
    US Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
    Ah, no pole. So you have work to do.

    If the hole and support fittings are there (like in my first picture), a retractable asym pole is really three parts:
    1) a sleeve that fits the existing hole
    2) a longer pole who's OD is just slight smaller then the sleeve's ID. Ends capped
    3) a wiper at the end of the sleeve that help keep water out.

    Given access to the right bits, a keen owner could fab this out of aluminum in a day. Or even simpler, just use a shorter FIXED pole the OD size of the sleeve. Much less work.
     


  9. Hunter216

    Hunter216

    Joined Sep 22, 2018
    178 posts, 48 likes
    Hunter 216
    CA Kingston
    Just thinking outside the box and I’m not sure how much they changed the cabin top to make the 22 but perhaps the spin kit for the 216 would work????
     


  10. clnhse

    clnhse

    Joined Aug 6, 2018
    18 posts, 1 likes
    hunter 22
    00 us Grand isle
    I really want to add the factory one in the cabin.
     


  11. Jackdaw

    Jackdaw

    Joined Nov 8, 2010
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    US Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
    I’d agreed that the cabin mount coming out through the bowstem is a cleaner look. Hopefully Hunter actually made that available as a product option, and not just as a one-off prototype. Alternatively, they may have detailed technical drawings of it. They’re usually pretty good at that, although not always so much with sharing them.

    Does your boat have that interior reinforcement fitting? The thing that looks like a copper colored bracket in the picture. That would be hard to fabricate.
     


  12. Hunter216

    Hunter216

    Joined Sep 22, 2018
    178 posts, 48 likes
    Hunter 216
    CA Kingston
    My thinking of using the exterior bowsprit (216 version) would be to preserve the “upscaling”of the interior. Perhaps the addition of the interior pole wouldn’t have any negative impact. I looked at one of your earlier posts and the blue coloured hull you have is a nice touch, was that from factory or did you paint? The interior pole is a nice look and would preserve the clean lines.
     


  13. clnhse

    clnhse

    Joined Aug 6, 2018
    18 posts, 1 likes
    hunter 22
    00 us Grand isle
    This boat has the factory blue hull. The guy I bought it from purchased it from a broker in 2016. The original owner got it from Marlow in a land deal. It was never put in the water until 2016. The pictures I saw from when he purchased it the boat was still in the plastic wrapper.
     


  14. clnhse

    clnhse

    Joined Aug 6, 2018
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    hunter 22
    00 us Grand isle
    So, what is the name of this boat... MH22??
     


  15. Hunter216

    Hunter216

    Joined Sep 22, 2018
    178 posts, 48 likes
    Hunter 216
    CA Kingston
    I don’t really know how they designated the “remodel” of the 216 The marketing material calls it the Hunter 22.
    This link is to the Boat Info section on this site
    https://hunter.sailboatowners.com/resources/index.php?

    It doesn’t appear in the list as there already is a H22 (the pocket cruiser)
     


  16. clnhse

    clnhse

    Joined Aug 6, 2018
    18 posts, 1 likes
    hunter 22
    00 us Grand isle
    I know It is a strange one.
     

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  17. Hunter216

    Hunter216

    Joined Sep 22, 2018
    178 posts, 48 likes
    Hunter 216
    CA Kingston
    CL
    I would really look into Jackdaw's question about the reinforcement fitting in the bow. If it's not there maybe the upscale interior model was never intended to have the pole.
    BTW Nice pic of your boat sailing!!
     


  18. Hunter216

    Hunter216

    Joined Sep 22, 2018
    178 posts, 48 likes
    Hunter 216
    CA Kingston


  19. Hunter216

    Hunter216

    Joined Sep 22, 2018
    178 posts, 48 likes
    Hunter 216
    CA Kingston
    I need to retract my comment about the H22 Boat Info. Upon review I see that both the original H22 pocket cruiser and the remodel of the 216 are within the H22 model section. My apologies if I caused any confusion.