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Old Genoa - Bin it or recycle it?

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  1. onlinelee

    onlinelee

    Joined Apr 8, 2016
    114 posts, 7 likes
    Beneteau 361 Clipper
    Sp Garrucha, Spain
    Hi friends,
    When I bought my B361 it came with an old 134% genoa. I just inspected it and found the bulk of the sail and luff tape of the 8oz Dacron is in super condition, it looks like it became the spare due to damage to the U/V strip & leech caused by the shroud bottle screws. Im taking delivery of a brand new sail suite next week so will have another spare! Rather than bin the sail I considered recycling it by having a sailmaker cutting it down to a " Heavy Weather " sail and hoped for some suggestions in this regard. Thanks in advance.
     


  2. Sailm8

    Sailm8

    Joined Feb 21, 2008
    1,529 posts, 192 likes
    Hunter 29.5
    US Punta Gorda
    If you decide to toss your sails check out seabags.com. My wife donated our old torn jib in exchange for a free bag.
     


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  3. Will Gilmore

    Will Gilmore

    Joined Oct 19, 2017
    3,154 posts, 1,417 likes
    O'Day 19
    US Littleton, NH
    If you need a heavy weather sail, that sounds like a great idea. Your sail maker will know best about that option, of course. You could also just keep it as the spare it has been. Maybe, just replace the UV strip.
    Stitching is all good, no crackling, cloth has stiffness without being brittle?
    - Will (Dragonfly)
     


  4. Parsons

    Parsons

    Joined Jul 12, 2011
    603 posts, 197 likes
    Catalina 36
    US Bay City, MI
    As you probably know, typical irreparable sail damage is stretching due to excess use - 'blown out'. If this was taken out of the rotation due to leech damage, and it's not blown out, then why not keep it as another club in your bag. Are you racing or cruising, and what are your other sails? Personally, I've found that I'd like a non-overlapping sail, rather than a true storm sail, for my boat. Something like a 90% jib would give me a more comfortable ride in gales (34 kt +) rather than a rolled genoa.
     


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  5. onlinelee

    onlinelee

    Joined Apr 8, 2016
    114 posts, 7 likes
    Beneteau 361 Clipper
    Sp Garrucha, Spain
    As I will have another " spare " due to my impending delivery, I really like the idea of cutting it down, but I guess they will ask " to what size " and rather than ask their advice of what would be a good size to have as a " smaller " Genoa I prefer the advice of you guys! It would be for use in the Med, cruising only, I have a new 134%, and a 150%.
     


  6. lillia28

    lillia28

    Joined Jul 22, 2011
    139 posts, 26 likes
    Mariner Yacht Co.(NH) Mariner 28
    US Atlantic Highlands, NJ
    Heavy weather sails are smaller, but are usually heavier sail cloth, to withstand stronger winds. Making a small "heavy weather sail" using light weather sail cloth, older and worn sailcloth at that, is an idea with certain internal inconsistancies. A smaller working jib, for sure. The storm jib my boat came with is about a 90%, but dramatically heavier than the 135. My usual storm tactic is to stay home and watch it on TV, so take this for what it is worth.
    Lou
     


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  7. Will Gilmore

    Will Gilmore

    Joined Oct 19, 2017
    3,154 posts, 1,417 likes
    O'Day 19
    US Littleton, NH
    You know, that's my tactic too but, sometimes my timing isn't good enough for that to work every time.
    Excellent point about the sail weight. If it does get used for a storm jib it needs to stand up to the storm.
    - Will (Dragonfly)
     


  8. 31seahorse

    31seahorse

    Joined Aug 2, 2005
    848 posts, 126 likes
    Celebrity Class 19
    US Penn Yan, NY (Seneca Lake SP)
    Recut for cockpit shade while at anchor? Use a corner piece for an anchor-riding sail? Cover to provide shade for the next summer picnic? Since "the rain in Spain falls mainly on the plain" (as the saying goes) you could cover anything to keep it drier.
     


  9. onlinelee

    onlinelee

    Joined Apr 8, 2016
    114 posts, 7 likes
    Beneteau 361 Clipper
    Sp Garrucha, Spain
    For sure a good idea but I already have all that covered - excuse the pun!
     


  10. Will Gilmore

    Will Gilmore

    Joined Oct 19, 2017
    3,154 posts, 1,417 likes
    O'Day 19
    US Littleton, NH
    Never excuse a good pun, it's a sign of weakness.
    - Will (Dragonfly)
     


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  11. agprice22

    agprice22

    Joined Aug 3, 2012
    2,139 posts, 419 likes
    Performance Cruising Telstar 28
    US Watkins Glen
    Wait, Wait, Wait... did you just use a GOLF metaphor in a sailing forum?? :waycool:
    Clearly you overestimate us!
     


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  12. onlinelee

    onlinelee

    Joined Apr 8, 2016
    114 posts, 7 likes
    Beneteau 361 Clipper
    Sp Garrucha, Spain
    Yes, I get that. I didn't want to use the term " storm jib " because its not my intension to sail in a storm, and unlikely, coastal hopping in the Med. However, knowing that winds could possibly get up on passage a smaller head sail may be preferable to a reefed 134%? Although its not the perfect weight for the job its kind of better than consigning it to the scrap heap.
     


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  13. Roland5048

    Roland5048

    Joined May 12, 2004
    1,093 posts, 333 likes
    Hunter Cherubini 30
    US New Port Richey
    I did exactly that with my old main and jib. They made me a tote out of the sails, sewed the sail logo onto it and added my GF's name in semaphore in exchange for the sails. Made a great gift that she uses every time we go sailing.
     


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  14. Kermit

    Kermit

    Joined Jul 31, 2010
    4,698 posts, 1,890 likes
    Hunter 260
    US Lake Murray Sailing Club, SC
    Great idea. But if my wife learns semaphore she’ll know it’s your girlfriend’s name on her bag. Ouch!
     


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