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May 8, 2018
98
Allied 42xl Galveston
I'v had my 9.2A for 5 months now, its my first sailboat. Due to that I feel like I'm bonding with this boat too much and opening my wallet to its charm. I'm trying to play the logical card, after all I have 5 more years till I can cast off my anchor line, so to speak, and sail off to...Aruba. (Why not, it starts with A and is out of the hurricane belt by a tad). Has anyone shared in this affliction of romantic involvement in a sailboat? Is your S2...The One? Or would you, throw some cash together and buy a proper .....(God that word hurt)...sailboat.

While your pondering that...I need to rebed toe rails, that a huge job where the deck flys off the hull?
 
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Nov 6, 2006
9,885
Hunter 34 Mandeville Louisiana
Welcome aboard ! Don't worry about the logic thing.. If she is a keeper, you'll know.. just like other attachments in life.. I bought my H-34 back in '91 and still really like her.. a few other members have owned their boats longer than me.. Welcome ! Enjoy the boat!
 
Oct 22, 2014
20,995
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
Welcome @unhinged schoolboy. Congrats on your new mistress. She will have a way of opening your pocketbook. Some sailors just open a direct deposit account with the local chandler or marina yard. It saves the hassle of going to the bank.

May she give you many moments of pleasure.
 

Kermit

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Jul 31, 2010
5,657
AquaCat 12.5 17342 Wateree Lake, SC
I’ve narrowed my purchases to two categories. Those that make sailing safer and those make it easier/more fun. And the third category is what my wife wants. I try to avoid all other purchases. I’m not an equipment guy at all. In fact, I’m probably the only photographer in the world who would rather practice his craft without owning a camera.
Oh, and welcome to the forum!
 
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Oct 19, 2017
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O'Day 19 Littleton, NH
Welcome to the forum unhinged schoolboy. Congratulations on your new lifestyle change :clap:.

Has anyone shared in this affliction of romantic involvement in a sailboat?
NOoooo! Nobody on this forum fits that description ;), so you kinda stand alone on that account. Otherwise, for ALL other sailboat related things (as well as many others) we are here to stand with you in times of need. All we ask is post the occasional picture of your boat and what you are doing with her. We are interested.

Great sailing.

-Will (Dragonfly)
 
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May 8, 2018
98
Allied 42xl Galveston
Welcome! Are you saying the deck is departing the hull?
It looks like I'm getting water coming in from the starboard tow rail and after looking at it i t looks like it fastens the top deck to the hull or at least plays a part. I'm in the process of re-bedding life line stanchions, bow pulpit, stern rails, chain plates with butyl tape and then seeing if toe rails are actually in need of rebedding....Are toe rails an area of scheduled maintenance?
 
Oct 22, 2014
20,995
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
Toe rails are generally stable and not a source of interior leaks unless damaged.
 
May 8, 2018
98
Allied 42xl Galveston
Thanks for the welcome. You are lucky to have your wives sail with you, mine lost her cookies when the boat leaned and began grasping frantically for handles where you would think they would put handles on boats that are about to flip. My kids view it as punishment.
 
Nov 8, 2010
11,386
Beneteau First 36.7 & 260 Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
Do you have water ingress from rain, or sailing?

It is possible to compromise the hull deck joint. That would leak when sailing. Rain can leak into the boat from ANYWHERE.
 
May 8, 2018
98
Allied 42xl Galveston
It looks like I'm getting water coming in from the starboard tow rail and after looking at it i t looks like it fastens the top deck to the hull or at least plays a part. I'm in the process of re-bedding life line stanchions, bow pulpit, stern rails, chain plates with butyl tape and then seeing if toe rails are actually in need of rebedding....Are toe rails an area of scheduled maintenance?
Thanks John......Thats a huge relief
 
Nov 1, 2017
635
Catalina 25 Sea Star Base Galveston, TX
@unhinged schoolboy ,

Good morning, and welcome! The 9.2A is a pretty nice boat; I had a friend who owned one for a little while, but sold it and bought a "proper" cruiser (Beneteau 34) just recently. Oddly, it does seem like the toerail assists in keeping the topside in contact with the hull and acts almost like a sort of coupling gunwale. Now, the topside is most likely fastened to the hull beneath the toerail, so if you've got leakage coming in from that area, it's more than just the rail you're having a problem with. Also, be sure to check the waterproofing beneath your stanchions/pulpits/chain plates is properly done and functional; the leak may be caused by a lack of waterproofing in the screw-holes.
As for your last question, toerails are often in need of either some elbow-grease (cosmetic work), or replacement depending on how much they've been used, or how old the boat is. We replaced the toerail on a Tartan 30 in November, and it was a bit of a hassle trying to find a replacement rail. It would be a lot of help if you contacted the original builder or a specialist, and did some research to make sure the parts you need are available and still being produced.
I hope this helps!

God Bless,
S.S.
 
Jul 22, 2011
146
Mariner Yacht Co.(NH) Mariner 28 Atlantic Highlands, NJ
https://www.practical-sailor.com/reviews/boatreview/s2_9.2-1236-1.html
Welcome! According to PS the hull/deck joint is an inward flange reinforced by the toe rail. Typically the joint is sealed by an adhesive something like 5200. Can you find the exact location of the leak? I am not familiar with your boat, but you need to gain the best access you can and see where the water is coming in. I have seen boats have their decks removed and the joint resealed, by that is unusual and hardly routine maintenance. Leaks are sneaky, water can leak inside far from where it leaked outside. It is a big enough job that you don't want to do it just in case.
Lou
 
Aug 1, 2011
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Catalina 270 255 Wabamun. Welcome to the marina
The activity referred to as "putting the boom in the water" usually makes for good cinematography, and is very often the source of discontent to the guests. (related or otherwise) The best advise is to keep it sort of upright if at all possible. :)
 
Jul 22, 2011
146
Mariner Yacht Co.(NH) Mariner 28 Atlantic Highlands, NJ
I did a search for S2 hull/deck joint leaks, and came up with 1 thread, which ended up being a chain plate leak, not a toe rail leak. Which means it is not a common problem, which is good news kinda.
 
May 8, 2018
98
Allied 42xl Galveston
i agree with Simon...service the obvious areas then drag out the 4 inch pump and look for leaks. I've been afraid to even utter this aloud...but here goes. I have water coming in the head from the ......Mast. Before I entertain any more S2 9.2A day dreams I better get that mast off and get it checked out, (Costly?.....stupid question...probably a lot). I saw where a fellow had the same problem...
 
Oct 22, 2014
20,995
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
Mast leaks can be several issues.

Do you have a mast that sticks through the deck and ends up inside your cabin against the keel? Most simply is the mast base covering called a "mast boot cover". It wraps around the mast at the deck above the cabin and stops water (reduces water) from coming down the mast into the cabin. Water still comes down the mast (after all you have a great big post sticking up in the air. Water is going to his it and trickle down it like it comes down a downspout.) but the water hits the boot cover, which wraps the mast like a turtle neck, and is deflected out onto the deck.
Boot covers get loose, and they get worn out from all sorts of action. Do you have a boot cover?

Alternately there are deck stepped masts. The mast sits on the deck on a base. Below in the cabin is a compression post that sits beneath the deck under the mast and on the boats keel. Because the deck is normally sealed no water gets to come down the compression post. Water still comes down the mast (both inside and out side of the mast) to the deck. There water is supposed to run off the deck and back into the surrounding water. As masts are hollow tubes, water finds its way into the mast and down to the deck. Your mast should have weep holes at the base to allow this water to weep out on to the deck. Some weep holes get clogged and water builds up inside the mast. This is a problem. Clean the weep hole and you may eliminate the water leak into the cabin.

Last but not least, all of the fittings around the mast base can be sources of water intrusion. Before you go removing everything look carefully at the fittings and under the fittings. Look for water trails. You may find only one fitting is a problem not all of them. Check the deck for moisture. Use a small tapping hammer to listen to the deck. Light taps on a solid deck have a different tone then taps that sound dead on a water soaked deck. LIGHT TAPS... you are just looking to produce a little sound not damage the gel coat.

Deck moisture is an opportunity for another posting.
 
May 8, 2018
98
Allied 42xl Galveston
mostly rain, however, I have gotton water in sailing. I think thats the vented starboard head window leaking......I better look closer...thnks
 
May 8, 2018
98
Allied 42xl Galveston
Mast leaks can be several issues.

Do you have a mast that sticks through the deck and ends up inside your cabin against the keel? Most simply is the mast base covering called a "mast boot cover". It wraps around the mast at the deck above the cabin and stops water (reduces water) from coming down the mast into the cabin. Water still comes down the mast (after all you have a great big post sticking up in the air. Water is going to his it and trickle down it like it comes down a downspout.) but the water hits the boot cover, which wraps the mast like a turtle neck, and is deflected out onto the deck.
Boot covers get loose, and they get worn out from all sorts of action. Do you have a boot cover?

Alternately there are deck stepped masts. The mast sits on the deck on a base. Below in the cabin is a compression post that sits beneath the deck under the mast and on the boats keel. Because the deck is normally sealed no water gets to come down the compression post. Water still comes down the mast (both inside and out side of the mast) to the deck. There water is supposed to run off the deck and back into the surrounding water. As masts are hollow tubes, water finds its way into the mast and down to the deck. Your mast should have weep holes at the base to allow this water to weep out on to the deck. Some weep holes get clogged and water builds up inside the mast. This is a problem. Clean the weep hole and you may eliminate the water leak into the cabin.

Last but not least, all of the fittings around the mast base can be sources of water intrusion. Before you go removing everything look carefully at the fittings and under the fittings. Look for water trails. You may find only one fitting is a problem not all of them. Check the deck for moisture. Use a small tapping hammer to listen to the deck. Light taps on a solid deck have a different tone then taps that sound dead on a water soaked deck. LIGHT TAPS... you are just looking to produce a little sound not damage the gel coat.

Deck moisture is an opportunity for another posting.

Deck Stepped.....I found a thread dealing with my S2. I need to rebedd the plate that mast mounts to and inspect it good
 
Oct 22, 2014
20,995
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
I removed the decked stepped mast on my boat, Jan 2016, during a total refit. In replacing the mast step wed refurbished the step, cut new holes for the electrical, cleared the weep holes and reduced the possibility that the wires in the mast could bring water into the boat by establishing drip loops.
Here is an image of the mast step after install.
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The old wiring was removed and sealed with 4200 before the mast was reset.

Image of the mast wiring led into the hose establishing the drip loop.
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