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Keel separation or bad fairing?

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  1. danneskjold08094

    danneskjold08094

    Joined Sep 21, 2017
    5 posts, 0 likes
    Catalina 30
    US Sommer Point, NJ
    I’m looking at purchasing a 1995 Catalina 32 and I had my first in person look at the boat today. I noticed a visible line at the keel-hull stub joint that concerns me. Photos attached. I’ve never seen a Catalina smile in person so I’m asking for opinions. Is this just bad fairing or the beginning of a keel separation issue?
    The bottom was painted recently, so they my be trying to cover something up.
    I’ve added photos of the keel bots from inside. The backing plates don’t look standard to me.
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    Last edited: May 4, 2018
  2. Calif. Ted

    Calif. Ted

    Joined Jun 8, 2004
    2,090 posts, 125 likes
    Catalina 320
    US Dana Point
    320's never had the Catalina Smile problem, I agree something is wrong, especially that crack at the aft end of the keel. There's an awful lot of "texture" going on there, looks like someone slathered something on it, maybe just paint. Here's the only photo I have of mine for comparison.
     

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  3. danneskjold08094

    danneskjold08094

    Joined Sep 21, 2017
    5 posts, 0 likes
    Catalina 30
    US Sommer Point, NJ
    Calif. Ted, thanks for your thoughts. What do you know about the plates under the keel bolts in the bilge? Are they standard?
     


  4. Calif. Ted

    Calif. Ted

    Joined Jun 8, 2004
    2,090 posts, 125 likes
    Catalina 320
    US Dana Point
    In 95 at hull #246 engines were changed from Perkins to Westerbeke and the shallow grid pan and bilge deepened to allow better drainage to the bilge, prior boats had an area under the galley that could collect water. The bolts and nuts are factory, impossible to replace bolts because they are J-bolts cast in the keel. The material of the backing plates looks the same, only thing gives me pause are the plates with 2 bolts. My boat with the deeper bilge doesn't have the crosswise plates, but maybe they did the shallow bilges that way. It looks like a good idea but a little trickier to build getting all the holes to line up with the pre-cast bolts.
     


  5. OS2Dude

    OS2Dude

    Joined May 7, 2011
    149 posts, 4 likes
    Catalina 30
    US Lake Lanier
    What did the surveyor say? (And does he have experience with Catalina keels?)
    Is a 95 a 320 or plain 32? Assuming the J-Bolts are held in place by a jig while the lead is poured and cooled, it should not be that hard to be able to pre-drill backing plates to the same distance. (They do it for the keel stub....)
    If it really concerns you, call Catalina Yachts and ask their opinion.
     


  6. Barnacle Bill

    Barnacle Bill

    Joined Jun 9, 2008
    1,509 posts, 35 likes
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    US -Bayfield
    A call to Catalina will tell you what is standard and what isn't.
     



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