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Discussion in 'Ask A Macgregor Owner' started by jimrichey, Nov 5, 2018. Add this thread to a FAQ

  1. jimrichey

    jimrichey

    Joined Oct 13, 2018
    21 posts, 5 likes
    venture 222
    US georgia
    I have recently purchased a 1971 Venture 222. This is my first attempt to sail, and restore a boat. I would appreciate ANY and ALL advice that I can get. I have purchased This Old Boat and Fix It and Sail It.
    Rranger and Todd Atchinson have already been helpful! I am currently looking to attach a Hood Yacht Systems SeaFlex furler onto the mast and any help with what blocks, lines, line sizes, routing, boom set up, etc. would be helpful. I will post pictures ASAP....thanks, Jim
     


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  2. dakno

    dakno

    Joined Jun 22, 2009
    193 posts, 29 likes
    Hunter 41DS
    US new orleans
    YouTube. Everything you want/need to know is there
     


  3. jimrichey

    jimrichey

    Joined Oct 13, 2018
    21 posts, 5 likes
    venture 222
    US georgia
    Dakno.....thanks
     


  4. jimrichey

    jimrichey

    Joined Oct 13, 2018
    21 posts, 5 likes
    venture 222
    US georgia
    This is the furler that I have, and I am looking for the best way to connect it to the mast and bow.
     

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  5. Timethief

    Timethief

    Joined Feb 28, 2018
    39 posts, 11 likes
    MacGregor 25
    US Orlando
    Don’t know if you’ve seen this, but it would seem to be the installation manual for your furler. A quick perusal seems to be pretty detailed about what they expect the hardware to be and how to hook it up. Also, they do say that the biggest installation issue is the “halyard wrap.”

    Good luck!

    https://www.defender.com/pdf/613102.pdf

    -Peter
     


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  6. jimrichey

    jimrichey

    Joined Oct 13, 2018
    21 posts, 5 likes
    venture 222
    US georgia
    Thanks Peter!
     


  7. Todd Atchison

    Todd Atchison

    Joined Jan 25, 2017
    114 posts, 36 likes
    Macgregor V222
    US Kentucky Lake
    Jim,

    I would say the YouTube suggestion is some good advice. I've seen a couple of models like that but, have no practical experience. You're gonna love a furling headsail. It's a game changer. I have a very old, very primitive furler and am pleased as punch. They are all very simple at their core. Think rolling shade.
     


  8. Timethief

    Timethief

    Joined Feb 28, 2018
    39 posts, 11 likes
    MacGregor 25
    US Orlando
    I’m with Todd : You’re gonna love that thing once you get it set up and going. If worse comes to worse, go to Blue Water and decide if it’s worth getting a new one - it’s like $600, but other than sail’s, likely the best $600 investment for new gear you can get for the boat. Or use the $600 number as motivation to get yours working!

    http://shop.bwyachts.com/product-p/3601-110.htm

    On the off chance you want to look at it!

    Good luck!

    -Peter
     


  9. jimrichey

    jimrichey

    Joined Oct 13, 2018
    21 posts, 5 likes
    venture 222
    US georgia
    Thanks Todd and Peter! I am going to try the Sea Flex and see what it will do.
     


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  10. Todd Atchison

    Todd Atchison

    Joined Jan 25, 2017
    114 posts, 36 likes
    Macgregor V222
    US Kentucky Lake
    It's been my experience with every boat I've fixed and sailed, that the anxiety is often times much worse before doing the actual thing. This should be one of those cases... do your homework but don't stress too much. Just do it. Save the $600 you're going to need it!
     


  11. Project_Mayhem

    Project_Mayhem

    Joined Sep 24, 2018
    163 posts, 28 likes
    O'Day 25
    US Waukegan
    Todd is spot on. I asked a million and one questions and stressed over every little detail before I got my last boat in the water. After a couple of weeks I realized what mattered, what didnt and that I just needed to jump in and do it
     


  12. Timethief

    Timethief

    Joined Feb 28, 2018
    39 posts, 11 likes
    MacGregor 25
    US Orlando
    I still ask a thousand and one questions, read tons, and then say "That was it?" after the dust settles. It is, for me, a nice slow long enjoyable process, combined with sailing (once I got the sails squared away - that was a bit of a project). What more could you ask for? The rest of it, you'll get to. She'll happily wait for those improvements/fixes, so long as you sail her!

    My two cents - worth exactly what you paid for it! lol
     


  13. Project_Mayhem

    Project_Mayhem

    Joined Sep 24, 2018
    163 posts, 28 likes
    O'Day 25
    US Waukegan
    I think most of us will come to a point and ask, "Do I want to work on a boat or sail it?"

    Most of us will prefer the latter and start sailing her as is while continuing to work on her
     


  14. jimrichey

    jimrichey

    Joined Oct 13, 2018
    21 posts, 5 likes
    venture 222
    US georgia
    Guys, thanks for the morale boost! The weather herenis sucky right now and Im working under a tarp, and its just rough. I want to put it into the water this weekend, just to get a feel....
     


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  15. Todd Atchison

    Todd Atchison

    Joined Jan 25, 2017
    114 posts, 36 likes
    Macgregor V222
    US Kentucky Lake
    "If it's going to happen, it's going to happen out there!" - Captain Ron
     


  16. Timethief

    Timethief

    Joined Feb 28, 2018
    39 posts, 11 likes
    MacGregor 25
    US Orlando
    I really need to watch that movie - especially since I am buying another (read bigger) boat!
     


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  17. Todd Atchison

    Todd Atchison

    Joined Jan 25, 2017
    114 posts, 36 likes
    Macgregor V222
    US Kentucky Lake
    It's pretty campy but classic! The boat in the movie was a Formosa 51. I admit, we actually looked at one in FLA this past October. That being said, bigger boat - bigger problems. Though I think we all deep down want a schooner... at least I do.
     


  18. Project_Mayhem

    Project_Mayhem

    Joined Sep 24, 2018
    163 posts, 28 likes
    O'Day 25
    US Waukegan
    @jimrichey If you have power available, I'd recommend buying a torpedo style Kerosene heater. A 35k BTU model will heat up an uninsulated, leaky garage like it's a sauna after about 30 minutes. I picked up a used one a few years ago for 30 or $40. Just make sure you dont spill kerosene. You WILL regret it.

    If power is not available I've seen smaller propane heaters rated for indoor use (primarily for RV's and camping) for about the same price
     


  19. jimrichey

    jimrichey

    Joined Oct 13, 2018
    21 posts, 5 likes
    venture 222
    US georgia
    Thanks Mayhem!!! Its raining so much and I am working from dark to dark. I think we will have some sunshine and 60 degrees on Saturday and I might have a local boat dealer that will allow me to use his A frame for keel inspection. Here is a picture of it as I got it.
     

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  20. Timethief

    Timethief

    Joined Feb 28, 2018
    39 posts, 11 likes
    MacGregor 25
    US Orlando
    Pretty boat! The window on the front of the house looks a lot nicer than the window someone installed on mine (window is a generous description - hole in the house covered by a piece of plastic). What is the thing sticking up on the foredeck? To raise a stormsail? Gonna presume the pic was at the PO’s place or yours, but that wasn’t how it was transported. Definitely looks like a great boat - you’re gonna love it when you get out on her. Shame about the weather slowing you down.

    Good, saw the movie this weekend - love that Formosa! Of course, I love ketches in general. I also am into big catamarans - Chris White designed at 63’ ketch rigged cat that I would love one day to modify the plans a little and build. Funny movie, though - wish I looked that good in a speedo!

    Jim, have fun on the boat this weekend (hopefully)!

    -Peter
     




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