I expected a lot of things to go wrong but I did not expect this!

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  1. Project_Mayhem

    Project_Mayhem

    Joined Sep 24, 2018
    421 posts, 83 likes
    O'Day 25
    US Waukegan
    I went to go check on one of my boats today and found it sticking up in the air!
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    The property owner knew that it was in the air but but couldn't be bothered to send me a text. She thought that I was mad at her because I "didn't secure my boat properly". I moved the boat off of her property. I tried pushing the tongue down, then hanging from it, then I tried pulling it down with my truck but the ratchet strap broke. In the end I cut the caribeaner I had on the lifeline. After a few minutes of gushing water I was able to pull the tongue down. The swim ladder, transom and tires had sunk into the mud but thankfully I had no issues pulling it out. Other than a bent license plate there was zero damage
     


  2. Ron20324

    Ron20324

    Joined Jan 22, 2008
    6,955 posts, 887 likes
    Beneteau 323
    US Annapolis MD
    I would have suspected a prankster filled the spare tire with helium:yikes: So, was the cockpit filled with water?
     


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  3. Project_Mayhem

    Project_Mayhem

    Joined Sep 24, 2018
    421 posts, 83 likes
    O'Day 25
    US Waukegan
    There were only a few drops of water under the tarp in the cockpit!
     


  4. Tom J

    Tom J

    Joined Sep 30, 2008
    1,424 posts, 316 likes
    Catalina 310
    US Quincy, MA
    Water is heavy!
     


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  5. Will Gilmore

    Will Gilmore

    Joined Oct 19, 2017
    4,784 posts, 2,782 likes
    O'Day 19
    US Littleton, NH
    I hope no serious damage was done by the water or the ice that way likely there before it melted.

    -Will (Dragonfly)
     


  6. Captain Larry-DH

    Captain Larry-DH

    Joined Jun 14, 2010
    788 posts, 433 likes
    Quorning Dragonfly 1200
    US home
    Lessons learned?
     


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  7. TomY

    TomY Alden Forum Moderator

    Joined Jun 22, 2004
    1,782 posts, 1,804 likes
    Alden 38' Challenger yawl
    US Rockport Harbor
    Think roof; draining. Not duck pond, when you tarp a boat. :)

    I've seen that scenario- in the frozen state - many times in boat yards. I have one of the boat headed to the moon on it's trailer, but I can't find it.
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  8. dlochner

    dlochner

    Joined Jan 11, 2014
    3,905 posts, 1,855 likes
    Sabre 362
    113 US Fair Haven, NY
    Yep, snow and ice that collects and doesn't run off. Remember water weighs 64 lbs per cubic foot. So, maybe there is 15 cubic feet (3 ft x 5 ft x1), that's 960 lbs sitting on the aft end of the boat.

    One of the ways boats sink at the dock is for the cockpit drains to get plug with debris with the cockpit filling with water, eventually the transom goes underwater and the boat goes down.
     


  9. 31seahorse

    31seahorse

    Joined Aug 2, 2005
    970 posts, 226 likes
    Celebrity Class 19
    US Penn Yan, NY (Seneca Lake SP)
    To tarp or not to tarp that IS the question.

    One might think that water would drain off or flap off of a loose tarp as the wind blows, but snow and freezing temperatures create a whole new ball game. We have chipped ice during freezing weather, bailed ponds of water off the tarp, or purchased replacements for tarps that have succumbed to winter weather. We even tried making small slits in the places where water might dam......didn't work either. We have tried supporting the tarps with ropes around the hull and over the mast, a framework made of 2 X 2 wood, and no tarp. Choice #3 was the only sure way to prevent ice build up on a tarp. Once ice was so heavy that a stanchion was pulled out of the deck!
     


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  10. topcat0399

    topcat0399

    Joined Aug 22, 2011
    1,106 posts, 129 likes
    MacGregor Venture V224
    US Cheeseland
    The main reason I tarp is to minimize the freeze thaw cycle that would be working on my deck fittings and such.

    Every year I get a little better at applying the tarp....
     


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  11. danm1

    danm1

    Joined Oct 5, 2013
    82 posts, 33 likes
    Hunter 34
    US Mamaroneck, NY
    Slightly off topic, but I've been using the 10 mil brown poly tarps for years. This year the grommets and material tore on three of them by the end of winter. I think it was largely due to repeated windstorms (although they were snugged up pretty well). Anyone have a source of reasonably priced but stronger tarps?
     


  12. Ward H

    Ward H

    Joined Nov 7, 2011
    2,393 posts, 576 likes
    Catalina 30 Mk II
    US Barnegat, NJ
    That must have been a shock to see. Glad there wasn't any damage to the boat. Good thing the rudder was off.
    The first winter I had my O'day 25 I dropped the mast and tarped it much like you did. Bent a stanchion and couldn't prevent the water from puddling. The next year I didn't tarp and the freeze/thaw cycle cracked the cockpit drain fitting causing a leak that almost flooded the cabin.
    What I eventually learned was a tarp would work well but only if you put it boom height and dropped it to the toe rail, not put it over the life lines/pulpits. That means cutting the tarp and Gorilla tape.

    Again, glad the boat survived with no damage.
     


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  13. Ron20324

    Ron20324

    Joined Jan 22, 2008
    6,955 posts, 887 likes
    Beneteau 323
    US Annapolis MD
    Oh, come on, sailors. It's a basic rule of navigation: Keep your bow pointed at the North Star !
     


  14. dlochner

    dlochner

    Joined Jan 11, 2014
    3,905 posts, 1,855 likes
    Sabre 362
    113 US Fair Haven, NY
    The poly tarps will degrade from UV exposure.

    If the boat is stored in a windy area, do not rely on the grommets. Use the grommets to hold the tarp tight to the boat and then put straps or lines over the top of the tarp. Depending on boat size, one every 4 to 6 feet. The strap keeps the tarp from billowing which reduces the strain on the grommets.
     


  15. Brian D

    Brian D Moderator

    Joined Feb 17, 2006
    4,455 posts, 1,087 likes
    Lancer 27PS
    US MCB Camp Pendleton, Ca KF6BL
    In stead of tarps, I wonder of Pond liner would be a better choice. Yeah, more expensive, but it is sturdier and I believe UV resistant. Just a thought.
     


  16. Justin_NSA

    Justin_NSA

    Joined Jul 7, 2004
    5,730 posts, 1,262 likes
    Hunter 30T
    US Cheney, KS
    That's how I did it this past winter. Tarps were kept as close as possible to the deck. I zig zagged line over the tarps thru the toe rail. I have an open transom.
     


  17. Benny17441

    Benny17441

    Joined May 24, 2004
    5,798 posts, 433 likes
    CC 30
    US South Florida
    Calm down, don't blame the storage people is not like if the boat burned down. That happens quite frequently and in some cases by design. I once had trailer boat with a transom plug and I would raise it up so that the rain water would drain by itself. Some folks tie a cinder block to the neck of the trailer to prevent that.
     


  18. Gunni

    Gunni

    Joined Mar 16, 2010
    5,943 posts, 1,489 likes
    Beneteau 411 Oceanis
    US Annapolis
    Forget the boatie, what’ up with the 7-ton. Tow vehicle for your next big collectible?
     


  19. Brian D

    Brian D Moderator

    Joined Feb 17, 2006
    4,455 posts, 1,087 likes
    Lancer 27PS
    US MCB Camp Pendleton, Ca KF6BL
    LOL yeah, I saw that too.
     


  20. Ron20324

    Ron20324

    Joined Jan 22, 2008
    6,955 posts, 887 likes
    Beneteau 323
    US Annapolis MD
    "Deuce 'n half", methinks?
     


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