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Garage Sailer

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  1. BobbyFunn

    BobbyFunn

    Joined Apr 16, 2017
    229 posts, 111 likes
    Hunter 170
    US Tampa
    A standard garage in the US is about 20 feet (6.1 meters).

    What are some sailboats boats that you have that fit in the garage?

    I've got a hunter170 that fits diagonally in a 2 car garage. For hurricanes i can rest the mast on the top of the bugout car so both fit in.

    I'm thinking of adding a hitch pivot, putting the boat straight in, then suspending mast from ceiling.

    Of course, my 28" RC sailboat fits between the tool shelves on the floor in its cradle, so we have an upper and lower limit.

    Id love to get some feedback from innovators with either great storage ideas or better boat choices.
     


  2. Crazy Dave Condon

    Crazy Dave Condon

    Joined Jun 8, 2004
    6,355 posts, 485 likes
    -na -NA
    US Anywhere USA
    Take mast off and storeseperately
     


  3. BobbyFunn

    BobbyFunn

    Joined Apr 16, 2017
    229 posts, 111 likes
    Hunter 170
    US Tampa
    Indeed, but where to place it safely. It should still be in garage. I dont want "scappers" eyeballing 22 feet of extruded aluminium and it cant be visible from street.

    Resting on floor as a hypotenuse takes second place to hanging from ceiling. If hung from ceiling the shrouds could still be connected to chainplates.

    What about cutting mast at strategic location and storing in pieces. Then reassemble quickly on site.

    Would need to innovate where to cut, how to strengthen for sailing.
     


  4. Crazy Dave Condon

    Crazy Dave Condon

    Joined Jun 8, 2004
    6,355 posts, 485 likes
    -na -NA
    US Anywhere USA
    The mast does not weigh much. First there is no shrinking ray gun. Just being funnny. Can you locate the garage ceiling beams placing two hooks with pulleys to lift mast up out of the way. Many do that
     


  5. Will Gilmore

    Will Gilmore

    Joined Oct 19, 2017
    2,395 posts, 976 likes
    O'Day 19
    US Littleton, NH
    You don't need to lift the whole mast. Diagonal works in 3 dimensions. To fit a 25 foot mast on 20 feet of floor space, a minimum rise 15 feet would do the job. 3-4-5 right triangle. 15 feet is a lot of ceiling height, but up into a dormer end? Rafters would be an issue.
    I could get my Mariner 19 with 24 foot mast into such a garage. I would have to detach the stays, unless I twisted or rotated on the ceiling.

    - Will (Dragonfly)
     


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  6. Calif. Ted

    Calif. Ted

    Joined Jun 8, 2004
    2,091 posts, 125 likes
    Catalina 320
    US Dana Point
    I used to store my Lido 14 in a 1 car garage with tilt up door by making a small door in the door for the mast to stick out.
     


  7. Kings Gambit

    Kings Gambit

    Joined Jul 27, 2011
    2,637 posts, 437 likes
    Bavaria 38E
    US Alamitos Bay
    Here's one of each! I don't know about hurricane resistance, but I also have an aluminum mast to stow at home. Dig a hole a couple to a few feet deep close to the garage, line it w/cement and an aluminum sleeve, drop the mast in that hole, stowing it vertically. (Although your "scrappers" might still see it.)

    Also, a better garage sailor you might consider is a Doughdish--saves you > a foot LOA; although, you might give it back on the trailer. Gaff-headed mainsail, so mast is relatively short, etc.

    http://www.doughdishllc.com/
    http://www.doughdishllc.com/dd_overview.pdf
     


    Last edited: May 24, 2018
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  8. Kings Gambit

    Kings Gambit

    Joined Jul 27, 2011
    2,637 posts, 437 likes
    Bavaria 38E
    US Alamitos Bay
    The other possibility is to stow the mast on a rack at a secure boat storage location or a yard.
     


  9. BobbyFunn

    BobbyFunn

    Joined Apr 16, 2017
    229 posts, 111 likes
    Hunter 170
    US Tampa
    Genius Will. I was only thinking 2d. There is such thing as a 4, 5, ..n dimensional diagonal, but the Tardis is being used to save the universe.
     


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  10. BobbyFunn

    BobbyFunn

    Joined Apr 16, 2017
    229 posts, 111 likes
    Hunter 170
    US Tampa
    "The Lido 14 is a family oriented day-sailer that seats as many as 6 yet remains sporty enough to be interesting to race."

    Mast is like 19 feet. Now your talking.
     


  11. BobbyFunn

    BobbyFunn

    Joined Apr 16, 2017
    229 posts, 111 likes
    Hunter 170
    US Tampa
    You are thinking like a kayak or bike rack? Copied is designed to be much wider. The load is very light maybe 15-20 lbs?
     


  12. Meriachee

    Meriachee

    Joined Aug 1, 2011
    2,456 posts, 623 likes
    Catalina 270
    CA Wabamun - on the orange ball
    Something that requires a slip instead? :)
     


  13. Crazy Dave Condon

    Crazy Dave Condon

    Joined Jun 8, 2004
    6,355 posts, 485 likes
    -na -NA
    US Anywhere USA
    Will
    Only if you had seen what I saw over the years with folks running into things but out of the way and if too long to the furherest corners of course dealing with daysailor masts only
     


  14. pateco

    pateco

    Joined Aug 12, 2014
    1,933 posts, 485 likes
    Hunter 31 (1983)
    US Pompano Beach FL
    I would hang from the soffit under the eave of the house in the back yard away from prying scrapper eyes. Like where this guy is adding his vent.
    Soffit vent.jpg
     


  15. walt

    walt

    Joined Jun 1, 2007
    3,228 posts, 368 likes
    Macgregor 26S Hobie TI, Capri Coronado 15
    US Denver, Colorado
    Hobie TI plus mast on a trailer fits diagonal in a standard (less depth) two car garage, easily fits straight in for a "boat depth" garage. Plastic boat is also way more susceptible to UV damage than a fiberglass boat so also pretty much has to be garaged.

    I also worry about the value of the AL mast as scrap for the sailboat parked in the side yard so have several visible camera's pointed at the boat.
     


  16. Kings Gambit

    Kings Gambit

    Joined Jul 27, 2011
    2,637 posts, 437 likes
    Bavaria 38E
    US Alamitos Bay
    Scrap Al looks to be worth around $0.70/lb these days.
     


  17. Will Gilmore

    Will Gilmore

    Joined Oct 19, 2017
    2,395 posts, 976 likes
    O'Day 19
    US Littleton, NH
    Now that's thinking outside the soffit box. Or is it inside?

    - Will (Dragonfly)
     


  18. BobbyFunn

    BobbyFunn

    Joined Apr 16, 2017
    229 posts, 111 likes
    Hunter 170
    US Tampa
    My gut sinks at the thought of being separated from the mast. As if climbing up the mast with with nylon webbing and no safety harness. :)
     


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  19. BobbyFunn

    BobbyFunn

    Joined Apr 16, 2017
    229 posts, 111 likes
    Hunter 170
    US Tampa
    Tandem Island?

    In sarasota area there are almost unlimited kayaking oppotunities. Ive often thought about mixing my sailing thirst with kayaking hunger.

    How does that sail and is the kayak usable without outriggers.
     


  20. BobbyFunn

    BobbyFunn

    Joined Apr 16, 2017
    229 posts, 111 likes
    Hunter 170
    US Tampa
    $20 bucks worth of meth is worth much more than my $1500 mast.