Finally made good on a promise

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  1. Jackdaw

    Jackdaw

    Joined Nov 8, 2010
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    Beneteau First 36.7 & 260
    US Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
    All season I've been trying to get out for a race with a boat owned by a couple that sail in our PHRF 2 (non-spin) class. They are decent enough sailors but have become frustrated by their continued finishing at or near the bottom in every race. I told them I wanted to come out with them, watch them sail, and then do a race with them were I could give them tips on their sailing and tactics.

    Finally it worked out last Sunday. Jodi had plans with her middle daughter, and the day was perfect with breeze in the mid-teens. So I grabbed one of my portable digital sailing compasses, my gloves and gear, and off we went, practicing for an hour before the race. We agreed that D would drive as normal, I would do main, tactics and be speed boss, and his wife L would trim headsail.

    We outlined a overall race strategy, and a plan for the start. We nailed it, and I constantly coached (nagged?) on driver attention for tell-tails, where we wanted the boat on the course, and the importance of very active main trim to keep the boat flat. We sailed the lifts pretty well, and rounded in the lead group! This is on one of the slowest boats in the fleet (Hunter 23) and they were amazed by the boats we were near.

    Long story shorter, we sailed well on all 5 legs on the 80 minute race, and finished with the lead group. The corrected results were the talk of the club at the party!

    nice finish.jpg
     


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  2. danstanford

    danstanford

    Joined Aug 2, 2010
    270 posts, 41 likes
    Beneteau 323
    CA Cobourg
    Well done! Our last race of the season is this Wednesday, can you be there for 5:00? ;o))
     


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  3. Bill19233

    Bill19233

    Joined Jan 22, 2008
    454 posts, 352 likes
    Hunter 340
    US Baytown TX
    Me too, Saturday in two weeks. I’ll buy the beer.
     


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  4. Apex

    Apex

    Joined Jun 19, 2013
    846 posts, 121 likes
    Oday 28
    US Traverse City
    Well done JD. Congrats to 2nd chances!

    For those reading, what are the lessons learned then from this?
    I see:
    1) practice ahead and
    2) a clear definition before the race on who was doing what (responsibilities), including who was being speed boss. Along with a
    3) Pre-race Overall race strategy, which then begets a suitable Start strategy.
    4) Constant call to attention to maintain speed throughout the race.

    Communication, then GOOD communication is evolutionary and suspect JD's communication is bar-none. That along with willingness to coach with some shred of consideration to the boat owners feelings (read stepping IN without stepping ON toes too much) shows in the results. I hope D and L are able to continue from the lessons you shared.
     


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  5. Jackdaw

    Jackdaw

    Joined Nov 8, 2010
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    Beneteau First 36.7 & 260
    US Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
    Oh tempting! ;^)
     


  6. Jackdaw

    Jackdaw

    Joined Nov 8, 2010
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    Beneteau First 36.7 & 260
    US Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
    Oh even more tempting... you know Texas is my winter sailing home!
     


  7. danstanford

    danstanford

    Joined Aug 2, 2010
    270 posts, 41 likes
    Beneteau 323
    CA Cobourg
    OK, we will throw in beer and pizza followed by butter tarts! Not sure how many of you know what butter tarts are, I had a technician here from Atlanta who looked like he wanted to throw up at the name till he had one!
     


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  8. Jackdaw

    Jackdaw

    Joined Nov 8, 2010
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    Beneteau First 36.7 & 260
    US Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
    That's really the deal. Communication is key on a boat. Talking about options, what we see, what we are going to do.

    Bigger picture, there are two things I try to deliver when coaching:
    1) A framework for what a winning program does
    2) Beyond learnings, a self-improvment model for going forward when I'n not there.

    One of the best books ever written for improving at sailboat racing is 'Sail, Race, and Win' by Eric Twiname. In it he notes that 95% of us have to learn without regular coaching, AKA from OURSELVES. He points out that if you are not improving, or not improving fast enough, its not because you're not a good sailor. Its because you're not a good COACH.

    I don't know how they will do next race by themselves. I'd like to think just like this but the odds favor not as well. But I know they now have tools that will make them better in the long run. And thats how we all get better.
     


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  9. jssailem

    jssailem

    Joined Oct 22, 2014
    9,614 posts, 4,317 likes
    CAL 35 Cruiser
    US Salem, Moored Port Everett WA
    For a lot of sailors this is not the norm. This is the norm for you Clay. You can see it in the video's. You have instilled it in your crew. It also is in the video's. Perhaps you take a card and write these three key thoughts on it and share it with the couple before their next race. Kind of a reinforcement to the sailing experience they enjoyed with you.
    Sharing skills is a great idea for the sport.
     


  10. Jackdaw

    Jackdaw

    Joined Nov 8, 2010
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    US Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
    So true. Sailboat racing (in particular W/L) is a battle for riches, and the coin of the realm is upwind distance, or gauge. You fight for it, you horde it, you never give it away. We preach that, we believe that, we practice that. Jodi is new to sailing, but if you look at any picture I've posted with her it it, I'm 99% sure that in 99% of them, she'll be looking at her tailtails.

    upwind.jpg
     


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  11. Jackdaw

    Jackdaw

    Joined Nov 8, 2010
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    US Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
    Oh here's a picture of the ol' Hunter 23 working her way upwind in breeze. Shoal keel or not, she did just fine! We beat a Merit 25 and a fin keel Carpi 22 over the line, never mind corrected!

    SC upwind.jpg
     


    Last edited: Sep 17, 2018
  12. smokey73

    smokey73

    Joined Oct 26, 2010
    743 posts, 168 likes
    Hunter 40.5
    US Beaufort, SC
    Just bought it on Amazon! After that endorsement there will probably be a run on them :worship:
     


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  13. Jackdaw

    Jackdaw

    Joined Nov 8, 2010
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    US Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
    and I don't make a dime. ;-)
     


  14. Jackdaw

    Jackdaw

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