Don't see that happen every day

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  1. Sandy Stone

    Sandy Stone

    Joined Jun 2, 2007
    343 posts, 45 likes
    Beneteau First 375
    US Slidell, LA
    Actually, I think you will find very few fiberglass boats with keelbolts through the frames (floors). I believe the reason being that the floors are usually hollow fiberglass C-sections and are unable to support the compression load. My old Pearson 32, a very stout boat, had keelbolts through the bottom of the sump only, not though the substantial floors in the sump area.
     


  2. Tom J

    Tom J

    Joined Sep 30, 2008
    1,414 posts, 308 likes
    Catalina 310
    US Quincy, MA
    I spoke to Frank Butler once, too. I thought it was great that he answered his own phone. It is funny that you mentioned the listing Catalina. Both mine and the C320 next to me listed a bit to port. I put 150 lbs. of lead under the starboard settee to correct the list.
     


  3. Crazy Dave Condon

    Crazy Dave Condon

    Joined Jun 8, 2004
    7,250 posts, 783 likes
    -na -NA
    US Anywhere USA
    I sold a lot of sailboats in my time but also worked on them. Is your hull over 20? @Tom J
     


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  4. Tom J

    Tom J

    Joined Sep 30, 2008
    1,414 posts, 308 likes
    Catalina 310
    US Quincy, MA
    My hull is #231, Dave. Most owners of the zero series Catalinas I talked to said the slight list to port is evident in their boats. I can understand why my boat would list, since the batteries, the holding tank, and the cockpit lazerette (loaded with tools, anchors, chains, etc.) are all on the port side.
     


  5. Crazy Dave Condon

    Crazy Dave Condon

    Joined Jun 8, 2004
    7,250 posts, 783 likes
    -na -NA
    US Anywhere USA
    The reason for the hull number and you are good to go, the first 20 from the factory had a short compression post causing issues with rigging and the slider closing and opening badly. I had an early one and Catalina came up with a fix. Frank called the customer who was aware and it would be resolved quickly. I held up delivery for two weeks which my customer appreciated doing that to make sure all was ship shape. Spacers were added to the compression post which not only solved the issues but actually better than later models. It was great that the mfg. came to the rescue
     


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  6. JRacer

    JRacer

    Joined Aug 9, 2011
    887 posts, 315 likes
    Beneteau 310
    US Cheney KS (Wichita)
    Frank Butler was a good man! Our local Catalina dealer, since retired and closed up, was always very complementary of FB and noted that FB answered the phone at the factory! The good ole days.
     


  7. Hayden Watson

    Hayden Watson

    Joined Apr 5, 2009
    701 posts, 183 likes
    Catalina '88 C30 tr/bs
    US Oak Harbor, WA
    Frank might object to your comment that he "was" a good man, unless something has happened to him recently.
     


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  8. rgranger

    rgranger

    Joined Jan 19, 2010
    6,090 posts, 1,589 likes
    Hunter 26
    US Smith Mountain Lake


  9. JRacer

    JRacer

    Joined Aug 9, 2011
    887 posts, 315 likes
    Beneteau 310
    US Cheney KS (Wichita)
    Well, I was thinking, he is (was) retired. But, apparently he is still active in the company.
     


  10. Gunni

    Gunni

    Joined Mar 16, 2010
    5,943 posts, 1,486 likes
    Beneteau 411 Oceanis
    US Annapolis
    Thanks for that bio, I was amazed to realize that I have sailed so many of Butler’s boats. He’s like the Forrest Gump of the average joe sailboat builder - was there at every turn.
     




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