Cracked vent fitting on Pearson 31-2 water tank

Oct 29, 2016
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Pearson 31-2 Bras D'or
IMG_0209.JPG IMG_0210.JPG Season began well enough and than after a good wind noticed some fresh water on my cabin floor. Made the assumption that the O-ring on the access port on my water tank was perhaps failing me or I had not put enough elbow grease into the tightening. Have since found this crack in the fitting on the tank. Wonder if anyone knows if this is a removable fitting or moulded to the tank. I have not tampered with it yet as I may need to use a sealant on the crack before it gets any larger.
 

SG

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Feb 11, 2017
1,670
J/Boat J/160 Annapolis
Where is the crack in the photo? On the gray 90 elbow?

Is that the top of the tank that the vent comes out of?
 
Oct 29, 2016
51
Pearson 31-2 Bras D'or
crack is on the white piece attached to the tank at 3 o'clock . Click on the picture, hopefully it will be more clear.
 

SG

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Feb 11, 2017
1,670
J/Boat J/160 Annapolis
If it's the poly plastic, I think you need to replace the piece. Does the white piece screw into a "male" fitting on the tank?
 
Dec 2, 1997
8,729
- - LIttle Rock
That "collar" is the female threaded fitting into which the male thread-barb hose fitting goes. If you look hard at the photo you'll see a lot of hard glop around it. That's not sealant, it's melted polyethylene. Fittings are installed PE tanks using a process called spin welding. A hole that's about twice the diameter of the fitting is cut into the tank, then a spin welder tool melts both the edges of the fitting and the edges of the hole while injecting new melted PE so it all blends together into a single mass. It requires a bit of skill that's only gained with practice.

If the collar is cracked, it's not repairable. Someone who knows what he's doing will have to replace it. Fortunately it's a water tank, not a waste tank 'cuz no one will work on a used waste tank! If there are any plastics fabricators in your neck of the Canadian woods AND you can remove the tank to take it to them, that would be the easiest least expensive solution. It would be worth a few hours drive to find one if necessary 'cuz the alternative is a new tank unless you want to try "strapping" the crack closed and wrapping it tightly in a lot of teflon tape that will eventually leak again.

And btw... Tank fittings are NPT standard, which is slightly tapered--so slightly that the taper in a female fitting that short isn't visible to the naked eye. Over-tightening the the male thread-barb fitting is just about guaranteed to crack the "collar," though it may not happen immediately.
 
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Oct 29, 2016
51
Pearson 31-2 Bras D'or
Thank you Ms Hall, excellent detail. Would you consider removal of the 90 male/barb fitting and strapping the collar and using something like 3m 5200 to restore the collar to watertight condition, perhaps replacing the 90 with a bead of sealant as well.
 
Feb 6, 1998
11,667
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
Fortunately it's a water tank, not a waste tank 'cuz no one will work on a used waste tank!
If you're kind, and fully bleach sanitize the tank before dropping it off, Triple-M Plastics here in Maine fixes them for me without issue. Bringing a non-cleaned $hit encrusted tank in for repair is the height of cheesy...
 
Dec 2, 1997
8,729
- - LIttle Rock
l. Would you consider removal of the 90 male/barb fitting and strapping the collar and using something like 3m 5200 to restore the collar to watertight condition, perhaps replacing the 90 with a bead of sealant as well.
Nope...it wouldn't work... 'cuz no sealant, not even 5200, will bond permanently to PE.
 
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Sep 9, 2017
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Valiant 40 Coos Bay -- Currently La Paz
It might be possible to do a heat weld on the fitting if you have good access to the crack, which from the photos it appears you do have. Such repairs are pretty common on motorcycle fairings, etc. If you can't find a local repairman, outlets such as harbor freight often have kits. Basically, the kit is a hot air gun with a nozzle and sticks of PE. Works a lot like welding using an oxy-acetylene torch. Practice on a test piece first. Don't expect the repair to be permanent, though.
 
Dec 2, 1997
8,729
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Just "squirting" new melted PE onto the cracked fitting is a just temporary fix...but it is possible to create a permanent one. It requires melting the edges of the crack and blending new melted PE with it...so that they run together to become a single mass. If you can do that, it'll last. However, you'll also have to "glue" the hose fitting into it too...'cuz melting the female fitting will destroy the threads.
 
Sep 9, 2017
15
Catalina 30 Vancouver
Hello new registered member here and basically just wanted to say hello to Peggy and longtime follower and fellow sanitation specialist. I agree with Peggy about any sealant on a polyethylene tank, it will not work. fairly easy and uncostly repair on a welded tank polyethylene fitting is to cut the fitting out and smooth top surface. get a flat square piece of nylon , plexiglass, or preferably polyethylene and cut a hole in the piece. take a three-quarter inch through hull and install it into the flat plate peace. you can use sealant underneath the tightening fitting in this case and it will stay in place. Cut a square piece thin rubber to match your Square cover plate. Put rubber between tank top and square plate and screw down two tank top with stainless steel fasteners . through hull Barb facing up . You can buy either straight or 90 degree angle through hull fittings In plastic. This will feel 100% and work for years to come. Your problem is you're fitting is close to the edge of the tank at the corner. Does the crack reach the corner of the tank? If not ,you will be able to repair your vent fitting this way.
I hope this may help.
And Peggy .I heard you retired ,what happened? Lol
 
Sep 9, 2017
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Catalina 30 Vancouver
LOL not sure what to make of that ,but it sounds like maybe your partner's a firefighter, but you got to love it ,look at all the attention you get here. LOL you know you're doing well when somebody else in the sanitation business actually looks up your post to see if you were concurring with what they're thinking. Good on you. I refer to you and your books quite often to my clients.
 
Sep 9, 2017
15
Catalina 30 Vancouver
Actually I know .when you have a passion for something and you love doing what it is, you can never leave it. I told boating which is my passion and made it my living and swore up and down I would retire a few times now but, just can't seem to leave it. there's something so satisfying and gratifying about being able to help someone, which could make or break their one and only holiday for the year.