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Cockpit squabs

Discussion in 'Ask All Sailors' started by PeterBld, Feb 16, 2017 at 6:05 PM. Add this thread to a FAQ

  1. PeterBld

    PeterBld

    Joined Aug 27, 2015
    39 posts, 1 likes
    Cal 2-46
    US Whitianga. New Zealand Whitianga. New Zealand
    We are looking at replacing our cockpit squabs. Sailrite recommend using open cell fast dry foam.
    Has anyone experience with this product?
    Is it more user friendly than closed cell?

    Pete
     


  2. ggrizzard

    ggrizzard

    Joined May 27, 2004
    745 posts, 13 likes
    Hunter 1979 30 Cherubini
    US Ponce Inlet FL
    OK, I'll bite...
    What's a "cockpit squab"?
     


  3. justsomeguy

    justsomeguy

    Joined Feb 20, 2011
    4,685 posts, 239 likes
    MacGregor 25
    US Tucson, AZ/Puerto Penasco, MX
    I think it's a Kiwi term for cockpit "cushion".
     


  4. Ron20324

    Ron20324

    Joined Jan 22, 2008
    4,878 posts, 211 likes
    Beneteau 323
    US Annapolis MD
    I used it, and like the results. IIRC, this is the stuff they make by adding nitrogen gas to the rubber mixture. Then they explode the nitrogen to make all the bubbles.
     


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  5. Kermit

    Kermit

    Joined Jul 31, 2010
    3,053 posts, 490 likes
    Hunter 260
    US Sumter, SC Lake Murray Sailing Club, SC


  6. shemandr

    shemandr

    Joined Jan 1, 2006
    2,553 posts, 117 likes
    Marblehead Skiff 14'
    US Greenport, NY
    Reminds me of a Two and a Half Men episode.
     


  7. Kermit

    Kermit

    Joined Jul 31, 2010
    3,053 posts, 490 likes
    Hunter 260
    US Sumter, SC Lake Murray Sailing Club, SC
    Did they have a squab(ble)?
     


  8. rgranger

    rgranger

    Joined Jan 19, 2010
    3,668 posts, 264 likes
    Hunter 26, Hobie 16 26
    US Smith Mountain Lake
    Ill bite
    What's a kiwi :kick:
     


  9. PeterBld

    PeterBld

    Joined Aug 27, 2015
    39 posts, 1 likes
    Cal 2-46
    US Whitianga. New Zealand Whitianga. New Zealand
  10. Kermit

    Kermit

    Joined Jul 31, 2010
    3,053 posts, 490 likes
    Hunter 260
    US Sumter, SC Lake Murray Sailing Club, SC
    Spoken like someone who's never been to New Zealand. Or tried vegemite.
    But to answer your question... A kiwi is a flightless bird native to New Zealand. New Zealanders are often referred to as Kiwis.
    I'd love to go back to New Zealand but not for the vegemite. Vegemite tastes like a combination of road tar, axle grease and nasty stuff. And that's the higher quality vegemite.
     


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  11. Meriachee

    Meriachee

    Joined Aug 1, 2011
    1,313 posts, 143 likes
    Catalina 270
    CA Edmonton, Ab Wabamun - on the orange ball
    I knew a Kiwi once. It's possibly where all this tossing stuff started.
     


  12. rgranger

    rgranger

    Joined Jan 19, 2010
    3,668 posts, 264 likes
    Hunter 26, Hobie 16 26
    US Smith Mountain Lake
     


  13. Ron20324

    Ron20324

    Joined Jan 22, 2008
    4,878 posts, 211 likes
    Beneteau 323
    US Annapolis MD
    [QUOTE="ggrizzard, ]What's a "cockpit squab"?[/QUOTE]

    OOoo, Ooo... I know, I know ! Captain Ron called the boy that name- before he became a mate! What do I win?
     


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  14. Kermit

    Kermit

    Joined Jul 31, 2010
    3,053 posts, 490 likes
    Hunter 260
    US Sumter, SC Lake Murray Sailing Club, SC
    What do vegemite and living at the YMCA have in common? Neither is something to sing about. I speak from experience.
     


  15. justsomeguy

    justsomeguy

    Joined Feb 20, 2011
    4,685 posts, 239 likes
    MacGregor 25
    US Tucson, AZ/Puerto Penasco, MX
    Well, @Ron20324 wins the internet for staying on topic, and not confusing Kiwis with Aussies. :rolleyes:

    You can "explode" nitrogen?
     


  16. centerline

    centerline

    Joined Mar 20, 2012
    3,875 posts, 150 likes
    Cal 34-III, MacGregor 25
    US Salem, Oregon
    open cell foam is a lot lighter than closed cell foam, and can be a good choice. it is also usually a lot cheaper....

    open cell foam is not able to dry as quickly as closed cell foam.... there IS an open cell foam that dries a lot quicker than other types of open cell foam, but most of the problems (and benefits) of open cell foam still exist with it.

    open cell foam absorbs water into the open "cells" where it can sit for a long time and so it stays wet, and when it does drain, it can still remain damp for a while.... if it happens to be saltwater that absorbed into it, the salt remains behind even after the water drains away and so continues to absorb moisture from the air and can remain damp forever... and is a lot more prone to mildew than closed cell because of it....the mildew can grow in to the foam a little bit.

    closed cell foam does not absorb water and it is much more buoyant because the gas bubbles are trapped forever within closed cells.... it will dry quicker because the wetness is only on the exterior of it...any mildew that grows is only on the outside of it.

    they both have their pros and cons..

    for setting on, I prefer the closed cell cockpit cushions, because for a 2" cushion they seem to remain more cushy and resilient.. AND the water runs off so they dry within minutes.... a 2" open cell foam seems to lose a lot of its cush and resilience as the sun warms it up... (but it returns as it cools down again)...and if it gets wet, it will remain wet for quite some time, but this problem is help by using a waterproof fabric covering....
    if one has the space to stow thicker (3-4") cockpit cushions on a relatively dry boat, the open cell is the logical choice due to the weight difference.
     


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  17. Kermit

    Kermit

    Joined Jul 31, 2010
    3,053 posts, 490 likes
    Hunter 260
    US Sumter, SC Lake Murray Sailing Club, SC
    And the squab can roost on the squab while you're preparing squab.
    (Hey, I put up with frog leg jokes.)
     

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  18. shemandr

    shemandr

    Joined Jan 1, 2006
    2,553 posts, 117 likes
    Marblehead Skiff 14'
    US Greenport, NY
    I was going to post that for the cockpit closed cell is preferable because of the water absorption problem. But when the open cell fast dry form was suggested, I didn't because I don't know what that is. It sounds like an oxymoron. To me open cell is a sponge.
    I had three sets of closed cell foam and found them a bit hard to sit on but vastly better than fiberglass. Open cell do tend to bottom out if not thick enough.
    I'd like to know why we can have leather upholstery like the power boaters.
     


  19. Gunni

    Gunni

    Joined Mar 16, 2010
    3,434 posts, 263 likes
    Beneteau 411 Oceanis
    US Annapolis
    All my squabs end up on the barbie!
     


  20. ggrizzard

    ggrizzard

    Joined May 27, 2004
    745 posts, 13 likes
    Hunter 1979 30 Cherubini
    US Ponce Inlet FL
    As I told my 3rd grade daughter (at the time) when she left for school every morning: "Learn something new today!".
     



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