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Boathook loop or boathook use... at a mooring ball? Not aftermarket thing...

Discussion in 'Cruising Sailors' started by genec, Aug 9, 2017. Add this thread to a FAQ

  1. BlowMeAway

    BlowMeAway

    Joined Nov 30, 2015
    1,133 posts, 620 likes
    Hunter 1978 H30 Cherubini
    US Cayuga Lake, Ithaca
    You mean the Blonde!
     


  2. jeepbluetj

    jeepbluetj

    Joined Jan 18, 2016
    483 posts, 150 likes
    Catalina 30
    US Dana Point
    So the obvious solution to all mooring issues is to invite those two ladies from the video to help. They seemed to have it well in control.
     


  3. genec

    genec

    Joined Dec 30, 2010
    188 posts, 57 likes
    Pacific Seacraft Orion27
    US HP: San Diego, M: Anacortes
    Hey, works for me... can they show up next week? GRIN
     


  4. Tom G P-21

    Tom G P-21

    Joined Aug 15, 2012
    301 posts, 15 likes
    Precision 21
    US Newburyport MA


  5. Charlie Jones s/v Tehani

    Charlie Jones s/v Tehani

    Joined Mar 1, 2012
    1,750 posts, 711 likes
    1961 Rhodes Meridian 25
    us Texas coast
    Cruising single hand, I lead a line aft outside, and pick up buoy along side cockpit and hook up there. Then drop back

    Can be a real task in a tide way
     


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  6. Charlie Jones s/v Tehani

    Charlie Jones s/v Tehani

    Joined Mar 1, 2012
    1,750 posts, 711 likes
    1961 Rhodes Meridian 25
    us Texas coast
    Oh and was in Maine this past week, sailing with friends. In the mooring field at Portsmouth the buoys had another float on the end of the pennant, with about a 4 foot fiberglass rod sticking up. Grab the rod, haul the pennant aboard and drop it onto cleat. neat set up.

    On the other hand, I can't remember EVER seeing a mooring here in Texas (or anywhere on the gulf coast). Anchor or dock is your choices
     


  7. jeepbluetj

    jeepbluetj

    Joined Jan 18, 2016
    483 posts, 150 likes
    Catalina 30
    US Dana Point
    Yup. That. the Johnson Grab n Go is kinda the same concept. I'd just tape a giant carabiner to my boathook and save $100 but I'm cheap and I rarely need to loop the top of a ball. If it's not blowing or strong currents, I'd just get the loop on the ball by the stern then walk it forward like I posted before.

    There's all kinds of moorings. In Catalina the moorings have a float with a fiberglass rod sticking up that you snag an pull aboard. That's hooked to the bow mooring line, and there's a "slime line" that you walk back to the stern for a stern mooring line. Yup, fore-aft moorings. They're really close together though, particularly at Avalon.
     


  8. justsomeguy

    justsomeguy

    Joined Feb 20, 2011
    6,979 posts, 1,233 likes
    Island Packet 35
    US Tucson, AZ/San Carlos, MX
    Is it called a pennant, or a pendant?
     


  9. jeepbluetj

    jeepbluetj

    Joined Jan 18, 2016
    483 posts, 150 likes
    Catalina 30
    US Dana Point
    Well, the island websites call it the "Pick up line" - so that's no help.
    To me, a "pennant" is a flag. An "Pendant" is a short line hanging on something. Autocorrect can... well.... mess that up. (Kinda like "Bridle" and "Bridal" -- why in the world do so many yotties have newlyweds hanging from the bow... )

    To crew, it's "Grab that big stick.. pull it up... grab that big rope thing and hook it to the boat..." etc.. :)
     


  10. justsomeguy

    justsomeguy

    Joined Feb 20, 2011
    6,979 posts, 1,233 likes
    Island Packet 35
    US Tucson, AZ/San Carlos, MX
    There's an understatement.
     


  11. Richard19068

    Richard19068

    Joined Jun 11, 2004
    792 posts, 80 likes
    Oday 31
    US Redondo Beach
    We have always called it the mooring wand.
     


  12. Captain Larry-DH

    Captain Larry-DH

    Joined Jun 14, 2010
    797 posts, 439 likes
    Quorning Dragonfly 1200
    US home
    No - the Grab n Go is not the same concept at all. You should look at it more carefully.
    It attaches to your boat hook with a slide fitting that is clamped to the shaft of your boat hook. The fitting allows the GnG hook to slide off when pulled in the "away" direction but keeps it attached to the boat hook while you have some slight tension on the attached line.
    When it's time to unhook the GnG hook, you snag the coated cable loop at the back of it with your boat hook, and the hook pulls right off (the gate on the GnG hook is spring-hinged two ways). It's a great accessory and IMHO a "must have" when picking up a mooring that doesn't have a usable pendant.
     


  13. Captain Larry-DH

    Captain Larry-DH

    Joined Jun 14, 2010
    797 posts, 439 likes
    Quorning Dragonfly 1200
    US home
    We call it a "pick up stick".
     


  14. seadaddler

    seadaddler

    Joined Dec 19, 2006
    5,558 posts, 158 likes
    Hunter 36
    US Punta Gorda
    The Robship Mooring Hook looks like the perfect thing for those PIA mooring balls and ask me about it was so windy trying to hook the ball that my boat hook got bent like a pretzel,yes in Florida it is very hard hooking those impossible mooring balls and yes on calm winds and no current with my wife at the helm and me at the bow with hook and extra lines.
    I have used the cowboy roping around the ball with a line tied to the bow cleat and than tie off the lines.
    And always wear good heavy gloves so if slime or even worst barnacles on the rope, for sure we have easy days and many bad days securing to a mooring ball and than some of the problems once secured to the ball when wind or current cause ball banging against the hull or make sure to keep line as short as possible so not to getting the mooring ball rapped around your keel which have seen in Ft Myers beach mooring balls.
    I really think the Robship Mooring or docking hook a good idea and pretty sure my wife would agree.
    Nick
     


  15. genec

    genec

    Joined Dec 30, 2010
    188 posts, 57 likes
    Pacific Seacraft Orion27
    US HP: San Diego, M: Anacortes
    Well... they both "take a bow."

    Hell, all I need is crew like that... "don't need no stinkin' boathook..." GRIN
     


  16. NotCook

    NotCook

    Joined Dec 29, 2008
    685 posts, 195 likes
    Treworgy 65' Custom Steel Pilothouse Staysail Ketch
    US St. Croix, Virgin Islands
    Basically every commercial mooring in the Caribbean , unless they have a trailing line to snag, haul aboard and attach your lines to.
     


  17. Hagar

    Hagar

    Joined Jan 22, 2008
    45 posts, 33 likes
    Catalina 42
    US Olympia Washington
    We use a snap shackle and boat hook fitting from Bosun's Supply. The 4" version is about $20 including the fitting for the boat hook.

    http://www.bosunsupplies.com/Mooring-Hook-Kit/

    It has always worked well for picking up the "ring on ball" moorings we have in the PNW. I spliced a 25 foot long piece of double braid to the eye and we snag the bouy ring with that. The other end is on one of the cleats. The trick is to keep tension on the line to hold the shackle to the fitting until it is hooked, then pull back on the boat hook. Once things have settled in we haul it in and pass a loop of heavier mooring line through the ring and pull off the snap shackle. A couple of extra steps but I would not want to depend on the snap shackle for a mooring even though it is pretty stout.
     


  18. All U Get

    All U Get

    Joined Oct 2, 2008
    2,987 posts, 643 likes
    Pearson/ 530
    US Strafford, NH
    We have the Robship Mooring Hook and haven't used it in 5 years. The dock ring or cleat needs to be large enough to have the hook slide through. If not the hook will get jammed and then become a PITA to get loose without dropping into the water. Many different mooring set-up along the East Coast so you need a variety of ways to tie up.

    All U Get
     


  19. genec

    genec

    Joined Dec 30, 2010
    188 posts, 57 likes
    Pacific Seacraft Orion27
    US HP: San Diego, M: Anacortes

    Yeah, I think I will ultimately get one of these... it makes sense, it is simple and inexpensive. I too like the idea of threading a heavier line through after "everything is settled...," not to mention that it is then easier to cast off that line later, as both ends can be made loose, for whatever reason.
     


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  20. Captain Larry-DH

    Captain Larry-DH

    Joined Jun 14, 2010
    797 posts, 439 likes
    Quorning Dragonfly 1200
    US home
    The CS Johnson Grab n Go hook is similar, but it also lets you remove it with a boat hook. The sprung gate travels both ways, so it will pull off if you snag and pull the white coated cable loop with your hook. Not secure to leave the boat on it, but as you noted, it's handy to have a quick hook capability until you can rig a stronger and more secure connection.
    http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1|2276108|2276138|2276137&id=99738
     




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