A bigger boat will allow you to skip that particular pit stop. I'm sure Cindy will agree.
About to drop cash on a new mainsail, advice please.
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You keep quite frog! We are going to look at a First 230. Small, nible, and enclosed head. Everyone will be happy.
Sam
Nible? Is that nubile, nibble or nimble? I'm thinking with Cindy onboard it's the first and second. But lots of the second.
Has anyone here tried Sail Care; sailcare.com ? They use what's called LeMauney Process. I'm thinking of giving them a try. Dgreen my 94" H26 has the same problem. Sail Care has a re-resining process of impregnating the cloth with resins. Sounds interesting to me. Sails are supposed to come out almost like new for a fraction of the cost. And they will do repairs, like fixing the bolt rope.
I may be crazy but I darn sure am staying out of the "4 foot it is" or larger boat. Just call me Crazy Dave but will let Kermit take the heat on that one. You know what a gigging fork folks is?
It's mostly a threat towards @Kermit . Think Neptune's trident.
I havent been on a good old frog giggin party for a long time. Basically its just a reason to go out drinking in the middle of a night swatting skeeters while you scan the bank with a flashlight looking for the reflection from the eyes of Kermits cousins. Sneak in as close as you can get and gig em!
Sam
Sam
We have used Sail Care twice and both times the sails came back looking like brand new sails....all stitching was
repaired and their quote was very reasonable.....they will give you an accurate estimate before they do their work.
Ford City, Pa. (I think).....Patrick
repaired and their quote was very reasonable.....they will give you an accurate estimate before they do their work.
Ford City, Pa. (I think).....Patrick
Meriachee
Mr. Frog realizes all the kidding and laughs just like me when someone misspells my last name with a m vs. n.
It is nice that most of us have a funny side to include you and flyinhigh4u
Mr. Frog realizes all the kidding and laughs just like me when someone misspells my last name with a m vs. n.
It is nice that most of us have a funny side to include you and flyinhigh4u
There was a question earlier about Asian lofts quality.... I bought a Asymmetric Tri-Radial for my C36 mail order and am very happy with it (HKSailmakers.com). Chute, Bag, Sock, Customs, & Shipping were under $1500 - and the thing is almost 1000 sqft. Order in the winter, and prices are less. It took less than a month from finalization to having it in my hands.
Les
Les
Read earlier that you'll probably order this winter for the better pricing, so, if that hasn't changed, here are a few thoughts:
Maybe not the original sail? If the boom is drooping, while it may be due to stretching of the sail cloth, it may also be due to the sail not being the original sail. It is possible that the previous owner bought a used sail and it almost fits. There may be some tell-tail signs such as the sail bag markings (although the original sail bag could be reused), spreader wear points on the sail (if it came from a different rig, a sailmaker could probably spot any wear because they know what to look for). It was mentioned earlier that the bolt rope shrinks so if that seems loose and the head of the sail is all the way up, that could be an indication, especially if combined with spreader wear points.
Heavier sail cloth: For the new sail, the sailmaker will come up with a cloth weight based on the sail measurements. However; if the recommended cloth weight is anywhere near the breakpoint for the next heaver cloth, consider getting the heavier one because it'll not get blown out so readily. The incremental cost for the heavier cloth is not a whole lot more.
Draft stripe: Recommend they add one because with a picture looking up the sail the sailmaker can put it on his computer and tell if the shape is good or not. If considering a recut at all, it would be handy on the current sail, and jib. If the sail draft isn't too bad, maybe just have a flattening reef put in and that would take up the slack on the foot of the sail. To raise the boom end, just a single reef point at the clew end however high it's needed and that would be far and away the cheapest way to go, maybe not even need to get a new sail if everything else is okay.
Topping lift: In light wind the topping lift can be used to loosen up the leach to improve sail trim. Without it, the leach can be drawn straight and not provide a good shape. Handy if there isn't a solid vang.
Maybe not the original sail? If the boom is drooping, while it may be due to stretching of the sail cloth, it may also be due to the sail not being the original sail. It is possible that the previous owner bought a used sail and it almost fits. There may be some tell-tail signs such as the sail bag markings (although the original sail bag could be reused), spreader wear points on the sail (if it came from a different rig, a sailmaker could probably spot any wear because they know what to look for). It was mentioned earlier that the bolt rope shrinks so if that seems loose and the head of the sail is all the way up, that could be an indication, especially if combined with spreader wear points.
Heavier sail cloth: For the new sail, the sailmaker will come up with a cloth weight based on the sail measurements. However; if the recommended cloth weight is anywhere near the breakpoint for the next heaver cloth, consider getting the heavier one because it'll not get blown out so readily. The incremental cost for the heavier cloth is not a whole lot more.
Draft stripe: Recommend they add one because with a picture looking up the sail the sailmaker can put it on his computer and tell if the shape is good or not. If considering a recut at all, it would be handy on the current sail, and jib. If the sail draft isn't too bad, maybe just have a flattening reef put in and that would take up the slack on the foot of the sail. To raise the boom end, just a single reef point at the clew end however high it's needed and that would be far and away the cheapest way to go, maybe not even need to get a new sail if everything else is okay.
Topping lift: In light wind the topping lift can be used to loosen up the leach to improve sail trim. Without it, the leach can be drawn straight and not provide a good shape. Handy if there isn't a solid vang.
I agree with everything you just said. Water ballast has so many advantages, I don't understand why it isn't in production any longer. You lose some headroom, but we never feel cramped. I'm always thankful of leaving that 1000lbs of dead weight at the ramp when I start back up that hill.
Check that your mainsail is hoisted all the way up. Most sails sag when they are cleated because the tension is released. Try to keep the tension on the main halyard as you cleat. A ratcheting block on deck or below the cleat helps immensely on sails that are not winched up. Run the halyard down to the block and up around the top of the cleat then pull and cleat.