It was designed, built and equipped so that one person can sail it. Why do I think that? Because I sail it single-handed quite a bit, so, you know - "proof is in the puddin'.With all due respect to your boat, I’m curious why you think your boat was ‘designed to single hand’. Beyond the lines coming back to the cockpit, I see nothing about it that would lend to that.
High initial form stability is not new, my 15 year old Finot design has plenty of beam aft. Doesn't have the chine, if that is what you are talking about, but trust me a chine is not a replacement for ballast (secondary stability) when the kimchee hits the fan.Modern short handed boats will have:
Very high initial (form) stability to add stiffness while short handed
I can roll out a 155% - 90% headsail, and sail single-hand in winds to 35 knots balanced against a reefed mainsail.Fractional non-overplanning rig to use a single headsail in a wide wind range.
That is daysailing racer-style. Cruisers will lock the wheel or set the AP and go get a cup of jo. Rarely drive.Normally tiller driven for driver comfort when hand steering
Yeah, I rarely fly the kite when single-handing. I find that a 155 mast-head genoa gets the job done. But I keep looking at that Harken spinnaker roller furler and thinking...maybe.Easy Asym setup, including a simplified bow pulpit to minimize snags
I have a problem with single-handers who don't stay on deck, standing their watch. In any case, my cockpit is plenty big for stretching out, and it has some other features the racers don't have - a nice big dodger, and bimini. Those cool twin wheels? They lop about 2 feet from your cockpit seating.Comfortable sitting/napping/sleeping station at base of companionway
I don't know what a "maneuvering winch" is, but I have a set either side of the companion way for all sail controls, and a set of primaries for the headsail next to the wheel. What I find more valuable for single-handing is oversized winches, much more valuable than twin wheels.All maneuvering winches near companionway
I’m not gonna argue with you Gunni, I know you rightfully love your boat.It was designed, built and equipped so that one person can sail it. Why do I think that? Because I sail it single-handed quite a bit, so, you know - "proof is in the puddin'.
High initial form stability is not new, my 15 year old Finot design has plenty of beam aft. Doesn't have the chine, if that is what you are talking about, but trust me a chine is not a replacement for ballast (secondary stability) when the kimchee hits the fan.
I can roll out a 155% - 90% headsail, and sail single-hand in winds to 35 knots balanced against a reefed mainsail.
That is daysailing racer-style. Cruisers will lock the wheel or set the AP and go get a cup of jo. Rarely drive.
Yeah, I rarely fly the kite when single-handing. I find that a 155 mast-head genoa gets the job done. But I keep looking at that Harken spinnaker roller furler and thinking...maybe.
I have a problem with single-handers who don't stay on deck, standing their watch. In any case, my cockpit is plenty big for stretching out, and it has some other features the racers don't have - a nice big dodger, and bimini. Those cool twin wheels? They lop about 2 feet from your cockpit seating.
I don't know what a "maneuvering winch" is, but I have a set either side of the companion way for all sail controls, and a set of primaries for the headsail next to the wheel. What I find more valuable for single-handing is oversized winches, much more valuable than twin wheels.
Yes sir, 11 tons ready to roll, hot and cold running everything! But Don S/V, Cook and TomY might argue that she's a bit of a light weight! I often have to remind my heavy displacement sailor buddies that she doesn't need much sail when the wind comes up. And we go faster when we go flat. But here's the thing - long distance for me is 600 miles or more. 50 miles is a day sail, and that is about all the longer I would want to be on one those "future of sailing" boats. I definitely would not take a chance with them rounding Cape Hatteras, and I suspect you would not either. So I go out, you go in, down the ditch and I'll wait for you at Beaufort with cold beer! Its a race, just different tools.But if you look at it, is IS a right down the middle-of-the-road medium-heavy weight displacement cruiser, ratios-wise. Single handling for long distances, you want as many of the controls close the companionway as possible.
And foilers are few and far between. My ex was asked by a sailboat earlier to demo the Hobie tris. BUT due to our oyster bars, and shallow waters, Hobie would't let us have the trifoiler. And so we couildn't have the others too sail eitherIt's VERY hard to find those designs down here; I've found that a lot of knowledge is limited when it comes to the Texas Sailor, simply because we're brought up in our own little world where only wing, full, bulb and swing keels exist. I've only ever seen one of those twin keel designs down here, and it was really old and in the yard...she didn't look too good, either. Who knows, maybe it'll pick up! I'll have to do a little more research on that. Thank you!
Not in the small ones of course, but I’d go around any cape on a pogo 12.5. Designed for that straight of the box. Thing is built to go around the world. Many have.Yes sir, 11 tons ready to roll, hot and cold running everything! But Don S/V, Cook and TomY might argue that she's a bit of a light weight! I often have to remind my heavy displacement sailor buddies that she doesn't need much sail when the wind comes up. And we go faster when we go flat. But here's the thing - long distance for me is 600 miles or more. 50 miles is a day sail, and that is about all the longer I would want to be on one those "future of sailing" boats. I definitely would not take a chance with them rounding Cape Hatteras, and I suspect you would not either. So I go out, you go in, down the ditch and I'll wait for you at Beaufort with cold beer! Its a race, just different tools.
While it’s very often true that designers and builders will use the same hull for both racing and then cruising boats, there almost always ends up being a compromise for the cruiser. Rating rules in fact penalize stability. They expect that you will have a crew on the rail to throw around to help stabilize the boat. Build it in, either with high initial stability or things like water balast or foils, and you get torched on your rating. So boats like the first 367 were very decent racers, but frankly a bit of a handful for couple when the wind got up.With the possible exception of more exotic things like hydro foils, new cruisers often take successful elements of design from racers. How many new cruising boats have been built with full keels. What are the trends in width, bottom shape, chines, cabin and deck layouts for cruises? Where's the beam width located? How about rigging? these elements follow on the heels of races. It makes sense that the racer/cruiser Is the most popular designs. Partly it's the designers. They want to limit the offered models in a limited specialty market to boats that can be pushed upon multiple market segments. You want a racer? We have the boat for you. How about a cruiser? Our hulls have proven themselves on the race course. We have just upgraded the interior and added some automation to make cruising a breeze. If you like to cruise, but want a boat that lets them know who's boss on the race course, we have a version with all the amenities for cruising with lighter materials and more efficient high-end rigging tackle.
One hull, multiple uses.
Sometimes, it's not about what the market demands, it's what the market can get. That's why marketing research is often limited. When the research says more of A are selling, you have to ask, is that because the market wants A or is that just the best of a very limited set of options?
-Will (Dragonfly)
The problem with most cats now is that they are designed for charter. They need to be comfortable at anchor, which they are. They are also fat, under-canvased, shallow draft, and as a result, about as weatherly as a square rigged trader....Catamarans are a great choice, but also a compromise. They are absolutely wonderful and charter fleets. But some of the compromises don’t lend well to ownership. Mooring is always a problem, the boats are not that Weatherly, and the dirty little secret is that unless you keep a light one very light, they’re not that fast!
I disagree. When a 40 something from S Cal can stand back and look at one of the new sailboats in the slip, picture a couple of girls in bikinis catching rays on the foredeck, and not be confused by what all those rope thingies and pole doohickies do, then they will consider buying the new sailboats.The 40 year old's that come here from southern CA have no problem spending 2-3 hundred K for a new boat.