Your MkIV would be the same boat; the Mk.V, not.I think the idea is that there needed to be changes made between model years to keep the boat relevant. The boats slowly adopt modern features and design. Coming soon:
Catalina 36 MkIV : open transom, tiller steer,
Catalina MkV: dual rudder, hard chines, bulb keel, planing hull...
That would be awesome!I think the idea is that there needed to be changes made between model years to keep the boat relevant. The boats slowly adopt modern features and design. Coming soon:
Catalina 36 MkIV : open transom, tiller steer,
Catalina MkV: dual rudder, hard chines, bulb keel, planing hull...
No, it was not a step too far. You said, "the world has enough tubby cruisers." (BTW, you were talking about boats.) Anybody who is offended by that statement needs to seek counseling for overcoming severely low self-esteem issues.
Look at all the specs. Almost everything is identical, 1 sq ft difference in sail area, LOA, Beam, LwL are the same. Ballast and displacement are the same, and so on.
Look at the pictures side by side and blow them up. I think the apparent differences are more of an illusion than real. The old model has a very square transom, the MK2 has a more fluid design. The other difference is the shading on the hull. The MK1 image has no shading it is just a line drawing, the MK2 drawing is shaded to give the image a more artistic look.
By the way, @Jackdaw, the open transom was introduced before the Mk. 1 was introduced. The Mk. 1 came out in 1994, I believe; the sugar-scoop transom appeared in 1990.
cb, Dave is right and you may not be familiar with the details and the history of Catalinas. I have owned them since 1983 (C22 - 83 to 87, C25 - 87 to 98, C34 - 98 to present) and am the Secretary of the C34 International Association. As far as the C34 and C36 Mark I and Mark II boats are concerned, there were some minor changes made, most prominently the open transom and a slight widening of the cockpit area above the waterline. The rest of the boat remained the same, and they do race together which points out that they are identical. That was one of the principles behind the changes: keep the boats the same.
I am first in line for THAT boat... if it will go 20 kts!
That is disappointing at best. Another item "overlooked" on many of the newer boats are handholds. I can go from my cockpit to my V berth with a secure handhold (teak loops) every step of the way. This has been noted both here and on cruisersforum many times. Truly frightening. You don't have to be on an ocean to get knocked around down below.
Indeed. This in particular becomes a problem on the new generation of very beamy boats. The designers (who DO think about this) have adopted a high-low model, with grabs built into fiddles and edges low, as well as traditional grabs along the roofline. Also, wide areas are broken up with hip-high furniture and fixtures designed for bracing.
This boat really captures the discussion on this thread. Here we have boat with a lot of nice features, easy to sail rig, shoal draft, fast, and economical. But apparently it is not financially successful.When Roger Martin's Presto 30 came out nearly 10 years ago, I thought it would catch fire. Fun, fast, simple, could plane as well as take to a beach(with the board up).
And at 100K for a new 30'er, it wasn't as ridiculous as many new boats.
There was a lot of media interest at the start and I knew of one here in our neighborhood and followed it's adventures. In fact somebody in the area took up the tooling to build them.
http://www.rodgermartindesign.com/portfolio/presto-30/
Well that was then,... I haven't heard much and I can't find one for sale. Sort of fizzled as a production boat. The market didn't materialize here for the boat.
