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West Marine anchor by Manson?

Discussion in 'Ask All Sailors' started by Jackdaw, Jan 11, 2017. Add this thread to a FAQ

  1. Jackdaw

    Jackdaw

    Joined Nov 8, 2010
    5,952 posts, 589 likes
    Beneteau First 36.7 & 260
    US Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
    I didn't want to hijack the other anchor thread so....

    Looks like WM has contracted with Manson to make branded anchor. Design looks decidedly new-gen.

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    Prices look very decent. Any experiences? They say "Our new West Marine Scoop Anchors were designed for us by Manson. Tested in New Zealand, they outperformed the Delta Anchor in setting and in overall holding power. Results are similar to the Rocna and Manson scoop anchors."

    In general when WM has used this model before (Henri Lloyd/Musto for outerwear, Uniden/SM for radios, etc) the results are very good.
     


  2. jeepbluetj

    jeepbluetj

    Joined Jan 18, 2016
    156 posts, 27 likes
    Catalina 30
    US Dana Point Dana Point
    Interesting. Good plan too, as the stuff WM was selling (delta) was generally less than optimal. Interesting looking design too.
     


  3. Jackdaw

    Jackdaw

    Joined Nov 8, 2010
    5,952 posts, 589 likes
    Beneteau First 36.7 & 260
    US Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
    Video.

     


  4. Joe

    Joe

    Joined Jun 1, 2004
    5,844 posts, 103 likes
    Catalina 27
    US Mission Bay, San Diego
    I've been thinking about this option for the past year.... be interested to hear experiences form others think also. Comparison chart in WM store shows very good holding power to weight ration.
     


  5. Brian S

    Brian S

    Joined Nov 9, 2012
    2,029 posts, 74 likes
    Oday 192
    US Lake Nockamixon
    You can see the family resemblance to the Manson Boss. :D
     


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  6. capta

    capta

    Joined Jun 4, 2009
    1,485 posts, 125 likes
    Pearson 530
    XX Sailing in the Windward or Leeward Islands where ever we are anchored
    It baffles me why anybody would accept those "comparison" tests done under ideal conditions. If you think about it, when an anchor is really doing it's job under extreme conditions, it's unlikely that the water would be clear enough to get those great underwater movies of the 'favored' anchor holding in a nice sandy, mud, whatever bottom, while another didn't do as well. And of course the anchor is always directly to windward of the roller as in the tests, with no veering or sailing on the anchor, as could be the case in extreme conditions. Those spreaders nearly in the water at anchor, times.
    I especially liked the one where a tractor was pulling an anchor UP the beach from the water. I guess that's why I sleep so well in Great Harbour on Jost. That hump in the anchorage means the water gets shallower were I to drag anchor, thereby facilitating resetting my anchor, while my boat stays in deep water the whole time.
    And then there's those times when one can't use the scope one would like to use. I swear my Rocna would hold at 2:1 scope, though we have had no need to try it, yet. 3:1 is pretty much our standard in crowded anchorages and so far (60+ knots), knock on wood, no problems. In a perfect world our chain doesn't do much for us in the chain locker, so putting as much out as we can is our standard, when possible.
     


  7. Kings Gambit

    Kings Gambit

    Joined Jul 27, 2011
    1,771 posts, 137 likes
    Bavaria 38E
    US Ventura Harbor
    Capta--evidently, others agree w/you!

    “I have no doubt that by far the most numerous cases of parting of chain or cable (rode), or breaking the anchor, are caused by a sudden jerk; but a long scope will, in great measure, render such a jerk harmless, as it is only to be dreaded when riding short. Any man in charge of a ship at anchor with the necessary quantity of chain cable on board, and space astern, to allow him to make use of it, but who neglects to do so, must be considered to be the author of his own misfortune, whether it amounts to the loss of his anchor, or the loss of his ship. No excuse can be offered for such neglect, which must originate either in indolence, or in a mistaken notion of the necessity.”

    J.M. Murphy, 1849 (the originator of Murphy’s Law?).
     


    Gene Neill likes this.
  8. Gunni

    Gunni

    Joined Mar 16, 2010
    3,301 posts, 226 likes
    Beneteau 411 Oceanis
    US Annapolis
    Well, old Murph didn't have much to work with in the anchor department:
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  9. Kings Gambit

    Kings Gambit

    Joined Jul 27, 2011
    1,771 posts, 137 likes
    Bavaria 38E
    US Ventura Harbor
    Well, I suppose the game then, as now, was to get the best and most out of one's equipment as possible. However, I somehow doubt that a first rate "ship of the line" would be riding on that one!!:yikes: [Or even an "ordinary" Clipper ship."]
     


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  10. capta

    capta

    Joined Jun 4, 2009
    1,485 posts, 125 likes
    Pearson 530
    XX Sailing in the Windward or Leeward Islands where ever we are anchored
    Wow, thanks for that quote. Hadn't seen it before.
     


  11. Gene Neill

    Gene Neill

    Joined Sep 30, 2013
    1,481 posts, 214 likes
    Catalina 22, Albin Vega 27
    US Orange Lake, FL
    Because such tests, along with anecdotal testimony by often-biased owners, are all we have to go on. Hard to do side by side comparisons in 50 knot conditions.
     


  12. thinwater

    thinwater

    Joined Mar 26, 2011
    1,341 posts, 49 likes
    PDQ Altair 32/34
    US Deale, MD
    Anything 3rd party?
     



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