Summer in British Columbia is the two consecutive days in which it does not rain and B.C becomes the most beautiful place on earth. And that's pretty much it for the year.(Isn't summer July 8-12 in Canada?)
Summer in British Columbia is the two consecutive days in which it does not rain and B.C becomes the most beautiful place on earth. And that's pretty much it for the year.(Isn't summer July 8-12 in Canada?)
It is interesting because you can transition a boat from a vehicle to a camper, so once stopped and anchored, it seems the dui laws would not be in effect, BUT... a boat never stops being a dangerous place, so the captain is always on duty and responsible. Good seamanship implies you have thought your way through the upcoming challenges, and are always ready to respond to any situation. In that case, it seems what is legal should never be an issue, as drinking impairs good seamanship. That last one...There are 3 fundamental issues here, 1) What's legal? 2) What's good seamanship? and 3) What's the likelihood of getting busted?
If you are anchored in a reasonably secure spot and there is no undue attention being drawn to your boat, and nothing bad happens, you probably won't get busted for drinking while at anchor.
+1 Thanks for saving me the trouble of writing this myself.It is interesting because you can transition a boat from a vehicle to a camper, so once stopped and anchored, it seems the dui laws would not be in effect, BUT... a boat never stops being a dangerous place, so the captain is always on duty and responsible. Good seamanship implies you have thought your way through the upcoming challenges, and are always ready to respond to any situation. In that case, it seems what is legal should never be an issue, as drinking impairs good seamanship. That last one...
Thanks for that. Just to be clear, I have no problem with a reasonable BUI limit but I do like to have an occasional beer or light cocktail while on a daysail.SB 65 (Hill) Might be early to write. This one might go away or be carefully amended. I suspect it's got a few miles to go... I'd recommend just tracking it for a while. Thanks.
I will write to my representative to support it. People who are climbing around the boat, bow persons, grinding or even just rail meat, need to be sober.Rick,
Can you cite the proposed bill so I can write to my representatives to oppose it?
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I believe the question is how do you get from open container to not sober? The legislation is over reach based on presumption of facts not in evidence.I will write to my representative to support it. People who are climbing around the boat, bow persons, grinding or even just rail meat, need to be sober.
It is the responsibility of the person in command of the vessel to set the alcohol policy on the boat under their command, it is not the state's responsibility to set the limit.I will write to my representative to support it. People who are climbing around the boat, bow persons, grinding or even just rail meat, need to be sober.
Being an EX-Californian, I still think this is dumb. "What's the matter with existing laws?" might be the question one would ask.For clarity, the CA proposal is to extend the existing motor vehicle prohibition of open containers to the operator of a boat. DUI limits already apply. Besides the operator issue, I also have a concern that sailboat crew could be construed as operating a boat when engaged in sail trim, grinding, navigation, etc.
How do you get not sober without opening a container?I believe the question is how do you get from open container to not sober? The legislation is over reach based on presumption of facts not in evidence.
. Ask an undisciplined underage reckless teenager. They'll hook you up.How do you get not sober without opening a container?
Same here, TSBB 2.on MY boat these are the rules- Offshore, NOBODY drinks Nada, nothing,, zip.
How about if I am the owner, but am not on the boat?? Does my physical location change my liability even though it is unrelated to the operation? Same goes for the question of the boat under anchor. As soon as I step off the boat, is it now legal to be drunk? The boat condition and safety has not changed.One little known USCG regulation is that the Helmsperson may not be considered the operator of the vessel. The operator is Captain, on commercial boats, on recreational boats it is the owner or the person who normally commands the vessel. Joe Hazelwood (Exxon Valdez Captain) learned this the hard way. Locally, a few years back there was a boating accident in Oswego NY, while the person driving the boat was not impaired, the operator/owner was. He was arrested for BUI.
I'm not an attorney, nor do I play one on TV.How about if I am the owner, but am not on the boat?? Does my physical location change my liability even though it is unrelated to the operation? Same goes for the question of the boat under anchor. As soon as I step off the boat, is it now legal to be drunk? The boat condition and safety has not changed.
In Minnesota, which has BY FAR the highest number of recreational boats per capita, ....